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Post by lee3 on Feb 6, 2018 20:55:38 GMT
^Neither one of those girl and birds are banksy. That girl and bird is attributed to him all the time like the panda and guns and people have tattooed themselves up and down with both images mistakenly attributed to the wrong artist.
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Post by lee3 on Dec 15, 2017 17:28:01 GMT
>>>And then there is the dark side of the Banksy revolution. The mad scramble for prints, the greed and the insane amounts of money which are so contrary to the whole notion of street art. It is no long for the people but for the few and the wealthy. Sadly, at the price being asked for the grappling hook crucifix, it is a part of the dark side from the outset. <<<
This is what happens when an artist reaches the no good deed paradigm; he's criticized no matter anymore. It was less than 2 months ago that some 500 prints were released for a tiny fraction of their true value which is extremely generous by any definition. He took in far less money then he could have and most likely added significantly to the back end workload for pest control dealing with COA's for any and all with that release. He could have raised the better part of 10 million sterling (at 20k each) but chose to give away 98% of that sum instead. Most would do no such thing. That is the very definition of "for the people" from my vantage point. Yes, some were allocated to long time supporters but it's obvious that many were allocated on pure luck. And then after giving away that kind of money he's criticized for behaving as an artist with like achievement. I'm jaded and biased but I don't see the cash grab that others do, on the contrary in fact.
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Post by lee3 on Sept 12, 2017 17:13:06 GMT
^ I believe a British thing but thanks for the explanation. Those plastic drones above the new charity piece and Jesus in the lobby were available in the gift shop for spare change when i visited Walled off.
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Post by lee3 on Jul 28, 2017 15:04:09 GMT
Duplicate post from the other board since so many fine folks only participate here now.
At the airport finishing up my 20 hour air time return over a few days which has given me a lot of time to edit photos and video and put a highlight clip together. I had a wonderful time despite apprehensions on going with latest clashes. The level of detail on a 3 story hotel is unbelievable and I can't imagine how much time went into setting this up. It's run incredibly well and was great to get that feeling back jumping into his art. I can honestly say that every person I met over there had a smile on their face and a willingness to open up and discuss in detail the adversity of their daily lives. A healthy dose of perspective is a huge understatement. If you're going to the hotel later on don't watch this vid
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Post by lee3 on Jun 17, 2017 17:00:53 GMT
I know this piece came to auction maybe 3 years ago but for whatever reason, I can't find the record. My banged up memory recalls this selling for ~150k sterling and was a far cry from the 600k that Laz wanted for it on a pdf where it was titled "Masons" back in '08. They're not canvases either and listed as household gloss and marker pen on board. No Those sold for about £60k only That's probably why i couldn't find the result, thanks for the correction. Here is the result: Banksy Title Masons (in 6 parts) Description signed, titled, numbered 1-6 and dated 03 on the reverse of the sixth pa More ... Medium gouache on board Year of Work 2003 Size Height 17.7 in.; Width 23.6 in. / Height 45 cm.; Width 60 cm. Misc. Signed, Inscribed Sale of Sotheby's London: Friday, October 18, 2013 [Lot 00133] Contemporary Art Day Auction Estimate 70,000 - 90,000 GBP (113,286 - 145,654 USD) Sold For 68,500 GBP Premium (110,859 USD)
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Post by lee3 on May 16, 2017 3:00:27 GMT
Fucking awful. Truly, undoubtedly awful. If this criticism means you never pick up a canvas again then I will consider my life fulfilled. Btw - Ive had a couple of glasses this evening. Sometimes, in the morning, I have a tiny pang of regret . Even while typing this, I feel mean.however, it is truly, fucking truly shit. Apply some fucking thought. You have, literally, painted the most obvious thing you can think of, and want money for it? Honestly, fuck off. I will send anyone a photo of my left ball,with the purchaser's name written on it (or their initials, size permitting) for an evidenced donation to any animal charity of £5. For an additional £2, I will involvea 'target' (not the shop) motif to make it 'current'. Ten pounds gets you both balls, target on one, name on the other, your choice for the saggy bit in between (don't get too ambitious ...) Sweet! Fuck you very much! SHT Bloody hell! when you say drinking, drinking what? Im not sure even tequila would make someone that venomous, is someone force feeding you Theresa Mays luke warm piss or what? Venomous from Tequila? Tequila to me is a smile with a side of sunshine and a great party. I've always thought it was the long term gin drinkers that we're angry but tequila too?
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Post by lee3 on Mar 22, 2017 17:59:56 GMT
^Federation, it's the same image at different stages of completion. The one posted on banksy's instagram account was what it looked like around the time that dismaland was hosted. Always the perfectionist, he continued to work on it in the studio for many months (the better part of a year) afterwards and the result is the one you posted above. He softened most of the painting up, moved some boats and submerged the color wheel and added the white line above it. The one you have in the post above is the final version and it's a tiny footprint of a painting. But with the white luster and light blue favored over the drab colors, it shines bright with nice lights and can hold a big wall in a less is more kind of way.
That's one of the things with this artist that a lot of people might not be aware of, he continues to work on the paintings after the shows and in many cases totally reworks them by the time they reach collectors. I've noticed people making comments at the other site that that painting of children on swings flying around the guard tower would be better if in fact all of the swings were attached to the tower. That's certainly true and it would be my expectation that they will be connected by the time he finishes that painting. Works like i hate mondays or rickshaw or even that riot painting look nothing like they did when they were first exhibited.
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Post by lee3 on Feb 14, 2017 16:32:20 GMT
Too big and heavy for me but I like it. Price is also good in comparison to print prices. Plus it's history is nice owned by a snowboarding legend. Think it's rather nice!! Estimate is good in comparison to print prices but I'm not so sure the price will be good in comparison. Makes for an interesting question when/if they are priced in unison, my preference is always for the strongest image regardless of medium. IE. give me the best print over the lesser painting though I can appreciate there are many who always choose the painting.
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Post by lee3 on Oct 26, 2016 15:37:55 GMT
I'm stunned you can't shake one loose for that price sleepy. Great composition, one that has evaded me too. It makes me curious if there are any completists around the globe with all of his signed editions? Not an easy task any longer.
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Post by lee3 on Oct 7, 2016 15:32:01 GMT
Jack and Jill, colour bleed/error print? I believe that's part of the pink edition 22. The last handful of them or so have blue streaks to the sides which seems to bother some (i dig the effect personally) as the pink began to run out.
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Post by lee3 on Oct 5, 2016 15:41:33 GMT
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Post by lee3 on Sept 29, 2016 18:45:30 GMT
>>>gangsta rat purchasers think it is somehow more street than the other rats. <<<
Interesting. I dismissed it 10 years ago and thought it was silly as it reminded me too much of posers that dressed that way back when. Over time, I've really come to love that bugger and what I like most about it is that when you step back from it and visually take it in, the letters, the tail, the arrow and the feet work for my eyes in a very abstract manner. It takes on a life of its own physically apart from its message in a way that many Banksy's do not to my eyes. It's crept up on me over time (like the best art in any medium) and I enjoy the imagery more now than I ever have.
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Post by lee3 on Sept 22, 2016 16:01:19 GMT
lee3 heard from the photographer/owner of MA - he confirms that they didn't paint it as a marketing stunt. but he did hear rumors at the time that it was B because he was in town and was familiar with their gallery, but now he's on the fence as well I think it's just that, a well timed copy. That's a MUCH larger version of the london doesn't work placard rat and looks nothing like any of the other rats he painted on that campaign. The rats got a little cooler/hollywood on that tour with director glasses, berets, glitter etc and that would be the only one out of dozens of stencils across this country that he supposedly painted from years past. Compound with zipcar ad and it's a no go to me. You could buy his old stencils online by that point too.
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Post by lee3 on Sept 21, 2016 17:37:19 GMT
^ Yeah, but that would have been the only old school rat of the 6 or 7 he painted here in town so that sticks out like a sore thumb. Then, you combine that with the fact that it's an advertisement unlike any other piece in that north american campaign (outside of the fact they were all generating publicity for the film) and draw your conclusions accordingly. I'd have to see that on his site to reverse my opinion.
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Post by lee3 on Sept 16, 2016 17:28:24 GMT
Just read through them again yesterday lounging around. So good and makes me feel like time moves too fast
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Post by lee3 on Jun 9, 2016 15:35:35 GMT
anyone have pictures from the Existencilism exhibition in LA 2002 (and the after-party "Ultimate Graphics")? I have pics of a bunch of canvases but nothing from the show(s) themselves That's a shame as there used to be a site that hosted maybe 15 photos of the after party with DJ's and kids dancing surrounded by those orange clay works. I just searched up and down for a bit there and can't find them online anymore sadly. From memory, there was nothing incriminating whatsoever in those photos but maybe just lost through time. So strange that his early career straddles the world before everyone had a camera phone. Even at the museum in '09 I don't think there were very many and they could well have still been those flip up craptastic versions back then. Now, everything he does is photographed to no end but most of that his first decade seems to be from a world gone by.
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Post by lee3 on Apr 27, 2016 17:44:37 GMT
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Post by lee3 on Apr 21, 2016 15:34:44 GMT
I would be interested in his process though. I wonder if he used the technique that was shown in the documentary about copying a Vermeer. To paint that using just your eye would probably require a near impossible level of genius. Most of the elder photorealists tended to grid out their paintings like a piece of graph paper. Then sketch and finally paint in each square in a tedious, repetitive almost mathematical fashion. There are/were many old unfinished Bechtel/Goings/Bell paintings at Meisel and, the now defunct, OK harris (ivan karp). It was fascinating to see perfectly complete paintings on one side that pixelated out as you looked towards the other in an almost Matrix like way. No idea why they finished some and not others (same reason any other artist abandons a work in process I suppose) but even the unfinished works carried enormous price tags. But, they never seem to shift for obvious reasons. I asked Ivan and Lou both previously and to your point, many of the younger statesmen in that pursuit do paint freehand. I understand why people do not love the perfection of that craft but I find them , when done right, to be mesmerizing. The kicker being one's interpretation of "done right." Most of the work looks real from a distance but as you approach within a meter or so, the lesser ones to my eyes become soft and lose their focus. They no longer resemble a photo and instead look like soft brushwork. Whereas, the best ones look like a photo even from a few inches or cm's but those are the hidden gems. I used to pay closer attention to the photo realists but my biased opinion was that the the younger bunch did not possess the razor sharp execution of their predecessors so I tend to prefer the works from 40 years ago.
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Post by lee3 on Apr 8, 2016 17:01:03 GMT
tricky subject what with the gas on aps at dismaland over the road - i don't have a full story on that - anyone here know the story ? There was only one GR AP at Dismaland and it was a secondary sale. As for the standard run, there was one at artnet auctions this week but I didn't keep tabs on it. I just checked artnet and the result for the one this week has not posted yet. The previous 5 sales of that image dating back to Dec. '14 are $49k (this was an AP), $16k, $18.3k, $14.4k and $15k. Good luck
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Post by lee3 on Apr 3, 2016 21:18:08 GMT
anyone care to share a pdf... on it's way me too, thx in advance
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Post by lee3 on Mar 17, 2016 17:53:36 GMT
Many of the artists who helped Blu to remove his street pieces around Bologna last weekend have been charged by the police. We're they charged for specifically removing these pieces or something else? It's an amazing story to follow.
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Post by lee3 on Feb 27, 2016 15:31:15 GMT
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Post by lee3 on Feb 26, 2016 19:43:28 GMT
>>>Part of me, however, feels that bright colours do not pay respect to the subject.<<<
Interesting. I think he's suggesting that we're so desensitized to our barbaric ways that he might as well put a little lipstick on this pig so to speak. I love the juxtaposition of pure evil in a dress with lush red lips suggesting it's harmless but can well appreciate the other side of the coin that says it's appalling in that light too. They look really great as a set as I know collectors who have 5 & 5 on each side of their stairway. It makes for a twisted ascent each night before bed.
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Post by lee3 on Feb 25, 2016 18:03:49 GMT
>>>Thank you, that is very helpful. I'm also a fan of the orange, it's very pleasing palette, but I'm also drawn to the dark versions, the gloom, misery, despair even. It's an image that has grown on me over the years, I'm drawn more to the darker pieces as I age...<<<
Certainly no wrong or right answer. Personally, my eyes always favor the dark subjects in bright colors to contrast their evil despair. the best Mao's have lipstick for my eyes, the best disaster works for me come in bright paint because who in their right mind would think to paint a bloody car cash in the early 1960s on a pink canvas? They become more powerful in hindsight as our species seems to treat each other with less respect as our population increases. The pivotal Jackie's are to my eyes the crossover between the icon portraits and the death and disaster works and why i would lean towards a weeping jackie over a smiling one. Those in my eyes are WAY under priced due to volume (there are over 250 of those paintings) but the decades to come will even that out not that it is much of a concern to me. I wish it was....
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Post by lee3 on Feb 25, 2016 16:36:42 GMT
Among my handful of favorite images from him. I presume we're talking prints here. These have always been very difficult sells on secondary and because of that you can get these reasonably. Even the unique black and white pulls on paper like this: www.christies.com/lotfinder/prints-multiples/andy-warhol-electric-chair-5622291-details.aspxhave struggled to hit the $50k mark (i think there was one that did $60k a few years ago but it had the silence sign in the upper right corner). Of the 10 editioned images, 9 can be had at auction for under $10k and there are always a version or two in most sotheby/christie's print auctions. The orange brush version is the one that carries the premium to the rest because it simply looks better than the others. The pink and blue ones look really good together too. A cursory review of arnet right now shows a whopping 600+ times electric chairs have sold which is more results for one image than many blue chip artists have for their career. The other 9 colors are frequently selling with premium for $7k low and a 12k high over the past year and a ~ $9k average. It's worth noting they have been at this price point for 10 years. They might have been half that price 15 years ago but that's from memory but the point is you buy this one because you love it. You can also double those auction prices if trying to source at a dealer. Last complete set sold for $189k in September of last year and last orange brush one went for $15k in April of last year. Personally, my eyes favor the orange just like the market.
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