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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2015 12:47:29 GMT
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Post by Dr. Plip on Nov 22, 2015 13:29:55 GMT
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.... THOSE TAX DODGING CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUuuuunnnnnnn...
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Post by Dr. Plip on Nov 22, 2015 13:31:28 GMT
First that ikea thing and now this?
I am genuinely gutted.
Proppa shattered.
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Post by Dr. Plip on Nov 22, 2015 13:33:35 GMT
Hold up. I may have made a mistake. This might be a street art project to raise funds to help save the Amazon rainforest. I'll just check.
Edit: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Dr. Plip on Nov 22, 2015 13:45:50 GMT
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Post by IggyWiggy on Nov 22, 2015 15:24:16 GMT
My eyes! My beautiful eyes! Won't somebody please think of the children?! The behemoth relentless.com continues to swallow everything it encounters. Who's advising these artists? Do they even know? Hope not
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Post by Dr. Plip on Nov 22, 2015 15:45:20 GMT
The Amazon prints are receiving "customer reviews" already???!!!
What is this madness?
Edit: I'm mailing a boxed turd to the first "reviewer" to use the word juxtaposition.
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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on Nov 22, 2015 16:13:04 GMT
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Post by notmattl on Nov 22, 2015 17:18:53 GMT
The Amazon prints are receiving "customer reviews" already???!!! What is this madness? Edit: I'm mailing a boxed turd to the first "reviewer" to use the word juxtaposition. Honestly, as much as I don't seen myself buying any of this, I don't see the difference with any other site selling prints ? A lot of reputable online galleries are trying hard to appear "too cool for school", but in the end they they are in the same business and no one blames them Amazon, Apple, eBay have all been displaying streety French flags and Eiffel Towers on their landing pages in the last days. Now that i have a problem with. These are profit seeking corporations, not people, they do not get to make huge displays of affection and empathy as long as they are driven fisrt and foremost by global shareholder value, especially by hiding behind cool and popular images, and don't even get me started on their active impoverishment of the planet whether it be through tax evasion, LCC intensive production, eco-disaster prone production etc...that is not helping restore balance to this fucked up planet. Now that pisses me off, a lot, as you can see. But if Amazon want's to sell prints by Ron English, like the profit seeking outift that it is, I don't give a shit
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Post by notmattl on Nov 22, 2015 17:19:37 GMT
I just realized i wrote a long paragraph about something that i don't give a shit about...sure that says something about me
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Post by IggyWiggy on Nov 22, 2015 17:26:01 GMT
The Amazon prints are receiving "customer reviews" already???!!! What is this madness? Edit: I'm mailing a boxed turd to the first "reviewer" to use the word juxtaposition. I weep for humanity. I left 3 negative reviews before getting bored. Feel free to get involved world ...
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Post by IggyWiggy on Nov 22, 2015 17:30:18 GMT
The Amazon prints are receiving "customer reviews" already???!!! What is this madness? Edit: I'm mailing a boxed turd to the first "reviewer" to use the word juxtaposition. Honestly, as much as I don't seen myself buying any of this, I don't see the difference with any other site selling prints ? A lot of reputable online galleries are trying hard to appear "too cool for school", but in the end they they are in the same business and no one blames them Amazon, Apple, eBay have all been displaying streety French flags and Eiffel Towers on their landing pages in the last days. Now that i have a problem with. These are profit seeking corporations, not people, they do not get to make huge displays of affection and empathy as long as they are driven fisrt and foremost by global shareholder value, especially by hiding behind cool and popular images, and don't even get me started on their active impoverishment of the planet whether it be through tax evasion, LCC intensive production, eco-disaster prone production etc...that is not helping restore balance to this fucked up planet. Now that pisses me off, a lot, as you can see. But if Amazon want's to sell prints by Ron English, like the profit seeking outift that it is, I don't give a shit May amazon continue to make its employees' lives a misery, who gives a shit? At least Apple have erected nets to catch workers flinging themselves off of the roof.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2015 17:57:06 GMT
Considering most people here buy and sell on eBay not sure it's worth making a big fuss over Amazon.
Amazon are certainly no worse than eBay and at least if you buy it will be what you bought of they will refund you.
Not supporting Amazon I don't use them at all and I don't buy or sell on eBay either apart from the odd charity thing.
I would also prefer Amazon to a flipper !!!
Agree with @notmatti 's comments
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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on Nov 22, 2015 17:59:32 GMT
though I feel a bit weird about this, I am glad that they're promoting Gaia, a very under-appreciated artist IMO. I drive by this wall every day..
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Post by Dr. Plip on Nov 22, 2015 19:21:17 GMT
TANNOY: "WORKER DRONE #463003338, CEASE CRYING AND REPORT TO YOUR NEAREST PUNISHMENT STATION UPON COMPLETION OF YOUR CURRENT WORK PERIOD. TWO MORE PRINTS HAVE BEEN RETURNED DUE TO ROLLING DAMAGE"
WORKER DRONE #463003338: "OH FOR THE SAKE OF FUCK!"
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Post by Dr. Plip on Nov 22, 2015 20:01:44 GMT
The thing is, I'm not surprised or disappointed by Amazon. I expect them to seek profit above all else. And I wouldn't blame struggling or new artists for seeking money and/or publicity either. But there are a few names there that I'm quite surprised to see. Artists that I don't think need to sell prints through Amazon.
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Post by IggyWiggy on Nov 22, 2015 21:18:47 GMT
The thing is, I'm not surprised or disappointed by Amazon. I expect them to seek profit above all else. And I wouldn't blame struggling or new artists for seeking money and/or publicity either. But there are a few names there that I'm quite surprised to see. Artists that I don't think need to sell prints through Amazon. Exactamundo.
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Post by j0hnny on Nov 22, 2015 21:24:46 GMT
Didn't street art die when the middle class started paying thousands for it? Surely now it is just art that happens to be in the street.
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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on Nov 22, 2015 21:37:07 GMT
street art died the moment Keith Haring started making ads for Lucky Strike
not really - but major corporations have been trying to make money off street artists since the movement started. this is just another example in a long tradition
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Post by poledance on Nov 22, 2015 21:50:23 GMT
Considering most people here buy and sell on eBay not sure it's worth making a big fuss over Amazon. Amazon are certainly no worse than eBay and at least if you buy it will be what you bought of they will refund you. Not supporting Amazon I don't use them at all and I don't buy or sell on eBay either apart from the odd charity thing. I would also prefer Amazon to a flipper !!! Agree with @notmatti 's comments Yep individuals selling and a multi national tax dodging billion dollar business are exactly the same and have exactly the same moral standpoint effecting vast swathes in exactly the same way.
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Post by mojo on Nov 22, 2015 23:18:31 GMT
I now hate Amazon even more than I hated them before.....shocking that these artists are part of this. Ron English !!! Huh? What? I'm genuinely upset that somebody I thought very highly of as a pioneer of billboard activism has become involved with a huge global multi corporate greedy tax avoiding crappy company such as this, I don't get it? I see Vandalog are involved ....... hardly surprising, that write up is crap and using the words activism and intervention when describing this 'project' is nonsense. Even if they were to release the most incredible artwork I have ever seen there is absolutely no way I would purchase it on principle.
*This has nothing to do with flippers, the prints are from an edition and therefore once purchased can still be flipped and there is absolutely no comparison to ebay.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2015 1:59:26 GMT
Amazon has been trying to get into the fine/contemporary/urban art game for quite a while. The first urban art print I ever bought, back in my wee innocent days, was through Amazon. That was the tail end of 2013 and I still haven't framed it. Slacker.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2015 4:26:40 GMT
Considering most people here buy and sell on eBay not sure it's worth making a big fuss over Amazon. Amazon are certainly no worse than eBay and at least if you buy it will be what you bought of they will refund you. Not supporting Amazon I don't use them at all and I don't buy or sell on eBay either apart from the odd charity thing. I would also prefer Amazon to a flipper !!! Agree with @notmatti 's comments Yep individuals selling and a multi national tax dodging billion dollar business are exactly the same and have exactly the same moral standpoint effecting vast swathes in exactly the same way. [br Ha ha I know you would love a debate but actually that was my point. There is no difference if you use one why complain about the other. So many people are also ripped off by eBay including the artists by the selling of fakes and people receiving ripped off goods Amazon are probably sounder. Know they have dodgy employment practices and neither of them pay their taxes. But as say I use neither. but they are basically the same so if you use one !!! So sorry mate no row here move on as they say!!
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