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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on Jan 19, 2017 2:40:17 GMT
@iggywiggy. Great you scored a point. Hope it made you very happy!! great reason to support Nazi Art. Fed there are a lot better and more informed art historians etc and Other scholars who define what is and what isn't Nazi art. It is defined that way for a reason and one assumes there are a number of reasons and criteria. So it is more than just the fact that the regime liked a picture of two cows etc. So it is wrong to over simplify the criteria used. I think oversimplifying is exactly what the issue is, but I'm defining that in a different way than you are I know you're coming from a good place and I understand your points - I just don't think we're gonna agree on this one |
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Post by IggyWiggy on Jan 19, 2017 18:28:39 GMT
@iggywiggy. Great you scored a point. Hope it made you very happy!! great reason to support Nazi Art. ... You understand I'm not William Cook? |
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Post by Still Hate Thatcher on Jan 19, 2017 19:41:53 GMT
I love hearing from Rubber Johnny. His totalitarian, rigid, inflexible views, incapable of accommodating dissension, discussion or argument remind me of a political regime but I can't quite put my finger on which one...
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Post by johnnyh on Jan 20, 2017 15:10:08 GMT
I love hearing from Rubber Johnny. His totalitarian, rigid, inflexible views, incapable of accommodating dissension, discussion or argument remind me of a political regime but I can't quite put my finger on which one... you really are a moron. Your unfortunately unable to take part in a serious debate. Lowering such a serious issue to the lowest common denominator. Pathetic |
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Post by johnnyh on Jan 20, 2017 15:13:13 GMT
People should actually have a look at this by an Israeli artist, satirist and author yolocaust.deReally interesting work but kind of hits home |
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Post by Still Hate Thatcher on Jan 20, 2017 15:17:38 GMT
I love hearing from Rubber Johnny. His totalitarian, rigid, inflexible views, incapable of accommodating dissension, discussion or argument remind me of a political regime but I can't quite put my finger on which one... you really are a moron. Your unfortunately unable to take part in a serious debate. Lowering such a serious issue to the lowest common denominator. Pathetic You are Donald Trumps tweetbot and I claim my five pounds! |
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Post by johnnyh on Jan 20, 2017 15:28:42 GMT
You are pathetic!!
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Post by johnnyh on Jan 20, 2017 15:30:10 GMT
People should actually have a look at this by an Israeli artist, satirist and author yolocaust.deReally interesting work but kind of hits home Lest we forget |
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Post by pingoo on Jan 20, 2017 15:47:57 GMT
I love hearing from Rubber Johnny. His totalitarian, rigid, inflexible views, incapable of accommodating dissension, discussion or argument remind me of a political regime but I can't quite put my finger on which one... looks like you nailed it, he's angry now. |
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Post by Still Hate Thatcher on Jan 20, 2017 15:48:44 GMT
You are a tweetbot. So sad. |
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Post by johnnyh on Jan 20, 2017 16:11:15 GMT
You are a tweetbot. So sad. Yes yes I am ok you win now just go away !! |
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Post by johnnyh on Jan 20, 2017 16:12:10 GMT
People should actually have a look at this by an Israeli artist, satirist and author yolocaust.deReally interesting work but kind of hits home Lest we forget |
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Post by Still Hate Thatcher on Jan 20, 2017 16:55:19 GMT
You are a tweetbot. So sad. Yes yes I am ok you win now just go away !! I can't deny, I find your anger arousing, sweet cheeks... |
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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on Jan 20, 2017 17:15:28 GMT
please keep away from the personal attacks. especially discussing a topic like this, and on a day like today, i think it's especially inappropriate
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Post by IggyWiggy on Jan 20, 2017 19:07:10 GMT
People should actually have a look at this by an Israeli artist, satirist and author yolocaust.deReally interesting work but kind of hits home It's an interesting insight into human nature, and at least the artist offers to remove photos of people who get in touch. When I first started taking tour groups to various historical sites in Europe, I was surprised by how some behave. Particularly at Auschwitz II-Birkenau where I saw people wandering around swigging from cans of beer, laughing. And the way a certain national group behave, waving their flags, chanting inappropriately, entering areas visitors are respectfully asked to stay out of. You really do see the best and the worst of people. |
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Post by Still Hate Thatcher on Jan 20, 2017 19:17:39 GMT
Insightful? Fair enough. I thought it predictable and unrevealing. Some people behave inappropriately. More people, more inappropriate behaviour. Remember, if you are of average intelligence, almost one in two people is stupider than you...
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Post by IggyWiggy on Jan 20, 2017 20:26:46 GMT
I know you're a wizened old sage, but I think it will make some stop and reflect and even encourage discourse. I know stupidity is the default setting for many, perhaps that's why more 'accessible' things like this are needed. Although I could be wrong, i'm mainly here to be eye candy.
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Post by Still Hate Thatcher on Jan 20, 2017 21:01:02 GMT
I know you're a wizened old sage, but I think it will make some stop and reflect and even encourage discourse. I know stupidity is the default setting for many, perhaps that's why more 'accessible' things like this are needed. Although I could be wrong, i'm mainly here to be eye candy. Hur, hur. Run along, gorgeous, and stick the kettle on, eh? Phwoooor! Nice back tits.... |
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Post by IggyWiggy on Jan 20, 2017 21:24:22 GMT
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Post by Still Hate Thatcher on Jan 21, 2017 18:23:59 GMT
Here's Piotr Uklanski's 'The Nazis'. I think the relevant line in the description, for this discussion, is the last line..  In The Nazis, Piotr Uklański presents 164 tightly cropped portraits of famous actors playing German tyrants in SS uniforms. Culled from popular film, the collection of glossy images shows how trauma reemerges through story and fiction in slick, simple narratives that shape an understanding of messy, complex pasts. In a sinister way, The Nazis demonstrates the commodification and even glorification of the history of the Third Reich for entertainment purposes. Uklański slyly depicts the serial retelling of an abhorrent past, highlighting both the tragedy of World War II and its consumption. The work stirred protests when first exhibited in London in 1998 for its darkly comical presentation of the ongoing fascination with one of humanity’s bleakest moments. |
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Post by adman on Jan 21, 2017 20:58:32 GMT
Here's Piotr Uklanski's 'The Nazis'. I think the relevant line in the description, for this discussion, is the last line.. In The Nazis, Piotr Uklański presents 164 tightly cropped portraits of famous actors playing German tyrants in SS uniforms. Culled from popular film, the collection of glossy images shows how trauma reemerges through story and fiction in slick, simple narratives that shape an understanding of messy, complex pasts. In a sinister way, The Nazis demonstrates the commodification and even glorification of the history of the Third Reich for entertainment purposes. Uklański slyly depicts the serial retelling of an abhorrent past, highlighting both the tragedy of World War II and its consumption. The work stirred protests when first exhibited in London in 1998 for its darkly comical presentation of the ongoing fascination with one of humanity’s bleakest moments. Agree with the general point, but this 'glamour' appears be an entirely Hollywood construct. An alternative view, seen through Russian eyes is of relentless grinding, cold, horror. The extraordinary film 'Come and See' is a good example – if you can get through to the end of it with dry eyes, I'd be surprised. (Sorry it's only the trailer – google for full film) For the nerds out there, the Jimmy Cauty print 'Beckham Get's It' takes it's source material for this film. On a positive note, one of the creeps in Uklanski's artwork isn't a nazi  . 5th row down, 5th column along is the marvellous 'Billy Liar' (1963 film). Lose yourself in London! |
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Post by norbok on Jan 22, 2017 19:35:31 GMT
classic, good movie ..  -Come and See- The film's title derives from Chapter 6 of The Apocalypse of John, where in the first, third, fifth, and seventh verses is written "Come and see" ...Klimov did not make any more films after Come and See, leading some critics to speculate as to why. In 2001, Klimov said, " I lost interest in making films Everything that was possible I felt I had already done." |
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