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Post by IggyWiggy on Dec 19, 2017 7:41:04 GMT
There was also a separate 20 mins programme showing the alternativity in its entirety. The Alternativity performance ran for over an hour, there are vast chunks missing in the TV version, it's very much abridged.  |
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Post by chainsaw on Dec 19, 2017 9:26:34 GMT
the play is being shown on wednesday, if i heard the announcement at the end of it properly
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Post by dellboyy on Dec 19, 2017 10:37:06 GMT
That's just the 20 min 'Part 2' that's already up on iplayer. If the actual play was an hour long, i guess they're just not showing it all?
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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on Dec 19, 2017 12:18:11 GMT
what's the verdict? was it worthy of Danny Boyle and the BBC's time? (haven't seen it yet) the news of another full length feature-film in the works is exciting New film ? Amy more info ? it was in the Guardian article, I believe... same producer as ETTGS (Jamie Cruz) edit: it was in the FT article: "A film of the whole project is under way, directed by Jaimie D’Cruz, who worked with Banksy on his 2010 documentary Exit Through the Gift Shop. D’Cruz tells me that, even for Boyle, it was hard to hire equipment here. And although it is happening only a few hundred yards from the nearest checkpoint, three Israeli photographers declined to take pictures for the FT" it's already up on IMDB www.imdb.com/title/tt7752132/?ref_=nm_flmg_prd_1 |
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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on Dec 19, 2017 12:55:05 GMT
The Alternativity performance ran for over an hour, there are vast chunks missing in the TV version, it's very much abridged. ^^^^^  |
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Post by ouroboros on Dec 20, 2017 10:03:43 GMT
i have found 50 shekels in my wallet if anyone is going to the WOH and could do with the extra cash. No rich wankers or carpetbaggers please.
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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on Dec 20, 2017 12:41:53 GMT
finally watched the BBC Doc - favorite scene was Danny Boyle speaking with his friend, about projecting adult irony onto children was wrong. bravo
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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on Dec 20, 2017 12:42:39 GMT
also - some instrumental God Only Knows  |
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Post by notmattl on Dec 20, 2017 18:58:28 GMT
finally watched the BBC Doc - favorite scene was Danny Boyle speaking with his friend, about projecting adult irony onto children was wrong. bravo Agree ! I also keep on thinking there is another level to the recurring "children" theme in the movie (not projecting the irony, not showing them the wall etc...) I mean, this isn't actually a BBC documentary by Boyle is it ? It is a Banksy stunt, where Boyle is pretending to shoot a documentary so that the BBC will air it... So nothing there is to be taken at face value, it is scripted, and all for a reason (the lady not sure about the accepting her role as assistant part, the parents unhappy about the setting, the daily scenes of the plight of the locals, the chap with his sword at the Balfour thing etc...) I am wondering what to make of the whole children thing? Is it simply that they have a white heart and that hate is taught / bred ? Is there something else ? Am I overthinking this ? |
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Post by ouroboros on Dec 20, 2017 23:25:31 GMT
Just watched this performace - it was pretty good
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Post by Old Toilet Door on Dec 21, 2017 2:05:23 GMT
This was the best bit, and they cut it out...
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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on Dec 21, 2017 2:35:10 GMT
This was the best bit, and they cut it out... too bad. #directorscut  |
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Post by carlcashman on Dec 21, 2017 11:48:42 GMT
finally watched the BBC Doc - favorite scene was Danny Boyle speaking with his friend, about projecting adult irony onto children was wrong. bravo Agree ! I also keep on thinking there is another level to the recurring "children" theme in the movie (not projecting the irony, not showing them the wall etc...) I mean, this isn't actually a BBC documentary by Boyle is it ? It is a Banksy stunt, where Boyle is pretending to shoot a documentary so that the BBC will air it... So nothing there is to be taken at face value, it is scripted, and all for a reason (the lady not sure about the accepting her role as assistant part, the parents unhappy about the setting, the daily scenes of the plight of the locals, the chap with his sword at the Balfour thing etc...) I am wondering what to make of the whole children thing? Is it simply that they have a white heart and that hate is taught / bred ? Is there something else ? Am I overthinking this ? Nobody is born hating another race/colour/religion... that is taught |
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Post by chainsaw on Dec 21, 2017 18:29:52 GMT
Nobody is born hating another race/colour/religion... that is taught religion is taught too. and its really sad that most squabbling is among followers who believe in the same creator.... like a family punch up, but worse. |
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Post by Still Hate Thatcher on Dec 21, 2017 23:54:27 GMT
Religion. Fuck me. Imagine if Sunday morning television was all about astrology, or homeopathy? Tv programmes dedicated to pursuits that involved the subjugation of women or LGBTQ people? Money taken from the poor, to...
You know what, I can't even be arsed to wax lyrical to demonstrate my disdain. If you believe in gods, you're a fucking moron...
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Post by riq on Dec 22, 2017 0:12:11 GMT
Watched the documentary yesterday and had a good time! Boyle seeing the wall for the first time, locals talking about graffiti tourism, kids having fun acting... Definitely worth watching it! Not as tricky as I thought it might would be, but I guess it was addressed to "normal" people not being used to Banksy and not to guys like us  Just out of interest, is there a way to find out how many people watched this as it was on television? |
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Post by sleepy on Dec 22, 2017 1:35:01 GMT
Watched the documentary yesterday and had a good time! Boyle seeing the wall for the first time, locals talking about graffiti tourism, kids having fun acting... Definitely worth watching it! Not as tricky as I thought it might would be, but I guess it was addressed to "normal" people not being used to Banksy and not to guys like us Just out of interest, is there a way to find out how many people watched this as it was on television? Hey, was a good insight, albeight Banksy's way to get coverage.. loved it though. In UK the viewing numbers are slightly different as its on BBC iplayer, an example, 1 million could watch it on tv when it was on, but many many more will watch it 'on demand' for free, at the time they choose (new times make viewing at your choice). The numbers normally come out after 1 week. Hope that helps. |
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Post by sleepy on Dec 22, 2017 1:41:36 GMT
I know it's Christmas and all, but the world would be great without religion, religious excuses and any other religious related way of escaping from the reality of the fact that we are human and God doesn't exist..oops, I said it..
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Post by IggyWiggy on Dec 26, 2017 21:13:18 GMT
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Post by ouroboros on Dec 26, 2017 22:16:50 GMT
Religion. Fuck me. Imagine if Sunday morning television was all about astrology, or homeopathy? Tv programmes dedicated to pursuits that involved the subjugation of women or LGBTQ people? Money taken from the poor, to... You know what, I can't even be arsed to wax lyrical to demonstrate my disdain. If you believe in gods, you're a fucking moron... You know, as I get older I am starting to lose my disdain a bit. I know a few people who are CoE and they pretty much spend their lives doing good works. Like Selflessly, not just at Xmas, but all year round. My BIL for one- a scientist - runs a department in a major hospital- each night is doing something for others via outreach and food inititives. You would not know he is a christian at all. never talks about it.Lovely fella. When travelling, I have tempered my once legendary hate for all things religion and do actually go into Old churches now just to get some background- some of the structures are quite stunning. I did some PG stuff at a well famous University opp north- litlerally had a norman cathedral a few metres from one of my seminar classes. never went in the place until recently. Fucking hell. its pretty impressive. Obviously the loons on London bridge in the morning do my cake in, especially when they harange the commuter vermin about the end times. We wage slave commuter vermin have enough to deal with without worrying about the day of reckoning hanging over our heads. Indeed, this new pope- yes he is a rascal with possible iffy connections to the Argentine Junta over the years but you can smell the the rather unique Latin American liberation theology seeping out from this bloke. lots of negtives but some positives. Remember that that old reactionary bastard JP 2 vigourously opposed LA Liberation theology. Ratzenberger hated them, accusing them of being marxists. There are other niches hidden away that suggest progressive elements are still hanging around, some outside LA as well. Worth a read of you have time Like much of this lot, you only pick up on the more verbose and belligerent, the more subtle nuances of the alternative voices are often lost in the white noise. etc |
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Post by Still Hate Thatcher on Dec 27, 2017 20:58:59 GMT
Religion. Fuck me. Imagine if Sunday morning television was all about astrology, or homeopathy? Tv programmes dedicated to pursuits that involved the subjugation of women or LGBTQ people? Money taken from the poor, to... You know what, I can't even be arsed to wax lyrical to demonstrate my disdain. If you believe in gods, you're a fucking moron... You know, as I get older I am starting to lose my disdain a bit. I know a few people who are CoE and they pretty much spend their lives doing good works. Like Selflessly, not just at Xmas, but all year round. My BIL for one- a scientist - runs a department in a major hospital- each night is doing something for others via outreach and food inititives. You would not know he is a christian at all. never talks about it.Lovely fella. When travelling, I have tempered my once legendary hate for all things religion and do actually go into Old churches now just to get some background- some of the structures are quite stunning. I did some PG stuff at a well famous University opp north- litlerally had a norman cathedral a few metres from one of my seminar classes. never went in the place until recently. Fucking hell. its pretty impressive. Obviously the loons on London bridge in the morning do my cake in, especially when they harange the commuter vermin about the end times. We wage slave commuter vermin have enough to deal with without worrying about the day of reckoning hanging over our heads. Indeed, this new pope- yes he is a rascal with possible iffy connections to the Argentine Junta over the years but you can smell the the rather unique Latin American liberation theology seeping out from this bloke. lots of negtives but some positives. Remember that that old reactionary bastard JP 2 vigourously opposed LA Liberation theology. Ratzenberger hated them, accusing them of being marxists. There are other niches hidden away that suggest progressive elements are still hanging around, some outside LA as well. Worth a read of you have time Like much of this lot, you only pick up on the more verbose and belligerent, the more subtle nuances of the alternative voices are often lost in the white noise. etc No. No. No. No. No. No No. Defo no I was raised by Marxist atheists. Pragmatists, though, so I attended the best free school in my neighbourhood.. Council house. Church school. 9-18. The Tory party at rest. Still makes my skin crawl. Dirty, lying, thieving bastards. I'm a good man, I don't need to subscribe to theism. Popes are hilarious! Bunch of elderly white fellas telling a bunch of black fellas what to do! Plus ça change... I've always been a fan of religious buildings. We used to go to church, which was next to school, every week. When I was eleven Miss Newton Appleby leathered a kid in church for chatting during communion. Churches and cathedrals are amazing. They should be, they were built by slaves. I was caught fucking in Coventry cathedral. I like to desecrate these ridiculous, fairy worshipping places... |
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Post by johnnyh on Dec 28, 2017 0:36:31 GMT
You know, as I get older I am starting to lose my disdain a bit. I know a few people who are CoE and they pretty much spend their lives doing good works. Like Selflessly, not just at Xmas, but all year round. My BIL for one- a scientist - runs a department in a major hospital- each night is doing something for others via outreach and food inititives. You would not know he is a christian at all. never talks about it.Lovely fella. When travelling, I have tempered my once legendary hate for all things religion and do actually go into Old churches now just to get some background- some of the structures are quite stunning. I did some PG stuff at a well famous University opp north- litlerally had a norman cathedral a few metres from one of my seminar classes. never went in the place until recently. Fucking hell. its pretty impressive. Obviously the loons on London bridge in the morning do my cake in, especially when they harange the commuter vermin about the end times. We wage slave commuter vermin have enough to deal with without worrying about the day of reckoning hanging over our heads. Indeed, this new pope- yes he is a rascal with possible iffy connections to the Argentine Junta over the years but you can smell the the rather unique Latin American liberation theology seeping out from this bloke. lots of negtives but some positives. Remember that that old reactionary bastard JP 2 vigourously opposed LA Liberation theology. Ratzenberger hated them, accusing them of being marxists. There are other niches hidden away that suggest progressive elements are still hanging around, some outside LA as well. Worth a read of you have time Like much of this lot, you only pick up on the more verbose and belligerent, the more subtle nuances of the alternative voices are often lost in the white noise. etc No. No. No. No. No. No No. Defo no I was raised by Marxist atheists. Pragmatists, though, so I attended the best free school in my neighbourhood.. Council house. Church school. 9-18. The Tory party at rest. Still makes my skin crawl. Dirty, lying, thieving bastards. I'm a good man, I don't need to subscribe to theism. Popes are hilarious! Bunch of elderly white fellas telling a bunch of black fellas what to do! Plus ça change... I've always been a fan of religious buildings. We used to go to church, which was next to school, every week. When I was eleven Miss Newton Appleby leathered a kid in church for chatting during communion. Churches and cathedrals are amazing. They should be, they were built by slaves. I was caught fucking in Coventry cathedral. I like to desecrate these ridiculous, fairy worshipping places... But then again you are a twat.....and doubt you got laid in Cov Cathederal........he he have you ever been laid?  |
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Post by Still Hate Thatcher on Dec 28, 2017 8:10:34 GMT
No. No. No. No. No. No No. Defo no I was raised by Marxist atheists. Pragmatists, though, so I attended the best free school in my neighbourhood.. Council house. Church school. 9-18. The Tory party at rest. Still makes my skin crawl. Dirty, lying, thieving bastards. I'm a good man, I don't need to subscribe to theism. Popes are hilarious! Bunch of elderly white fellas telling a bunch of black fellas what to do! Plus ça change... I've always been a fan of religious buildings. We used to go to church, which was next to school, every week. When I was eleven Miss Newton Appleby leathered a kid in church for chatting during communion. Churches and cathedrals are amazing. They should be, they were built by slaves. I was caught fucking in Coventry cathedral. I like to desecrate these ridiculous, fairy worshipping places... But then again you are a twat.....and doubt you got laid in Cov Cathederal........he he have you ever been laid? Does your mam count? |
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Post by johnnyh on Dec 28, 2017 8:53:06 GMT
Yawn yawn!!
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Post by riq on Jan 3, 2018 13:59:49 GMT
Is it possible to watch the Alternativity performance online anywhere? Can't find it. No 20minutes version even...
Would be great if somebody could help!
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