It was a Francis Bacon print. (signed) ed.180 Saw it just before the auction began and bid on it and won. I didn't do some research before but when I received the piece it was framed in a ikea cheap frame and the picture was a bit blurry. It was supposed to be a grano lithography (i never heard of it before) but it looks like a cheap digital copy.I did some research on the web and found nothing about this print.In fact FRancis Bacon never produced this print at all. Christies did an auction a couple of months ago titled: Francis Bacon,The complete prints and the print I bought wasn't feature in the sale. I need to send them a proof by an expert to be refund.I told them that it was clearly a fake but they told me that their experts told it was a genuine one!!
It was a Francis Bacon print. (signed) ed.180 Saw it just before the auction began and bid on it and won. I didn't do some research before but when I received the piece it was framed in a ikea cheap frame and the picture was a bit blurry. It was supposed to be a grano lithography (i never heard of it before) but it looks like a cheap digital copy.I did some research on the web and found nothing about this print.In fact FRancis Bacon never produced this print at all. Christies did an auction a couple of months ago titled: Francis Bacon,The complete prints and the print I bought wasn't feature in the sale. I need to send them a proof by an expert to be refund.I told them that it was clearly a fake but they told me that their experts told it was a genuine one!!
sorry you were ripped, but online auctions have both opened up the game to collectors and expanded the capacity for flogging crap that you would not buy in the saleroom. There were some Banksys at Drewatts a few months ago that would have been sold at a masive discount on Ebay, as they looked like the dog had beeen sleeping on them and would have been returned and a paypal case opened, but went for more at the house, probabaly unseen and with the right questions not being asked. They are slippery feckers thems auctioneers
sorry you were ripped, but online auctions have both opened up the game to collectors and expanded the capacity for flogging crap that you would not buy in the saleroom. There were some Banksys at Drewatts a few months ago that would have been sold at a masive discount on Ebay, as they looked like the dog had beeen sleeping on them and would have been returned and a paypal case opened, but went for more at the house, probabaly unseen and with the right questions not being asked. They are slippery feckers thems auctioneers
It was a Francis Bacon print. (signed) ed.180 Saw it just before the auction began and bid on it and won. I didn't do some research before but when I received the piece it was framed in a ikea cheap frame and the picture was a bit blurry. It was supposed to be a grano lithography (i never heard of it before) but it looks like a cheap digital copy.I did some research on the web and found nothing about this print.In fact FRancis Bacon never produced this print at all. Christies did an auction a couple of months ago titled: Francis Bacon,The complete prints and the print I bought wasn't feature in the sale. I need to send them a proof by an expert to be refund.I told them that it was clearly a fake but they told me that their experts told it was a genuine one!!
It says "after" in the title, implying it was produced after his death
yes that's the print. Sorry Fed but ''After'' doesn't mean it was produce after his death it means that the work is based on a previous work the artist did. Here's a good definition of what After means: The convention in the art world is that the phrase “by” Picasso (or “by” any other artist) means the artist worked directly on the original plate. For a lithograph, this means the artist drew on the original plate or on the original transfer paper. For an etching, this means the artist inscribed or etched the image on the original copper plate.
The phrase “after” Picasso (or “after” any other artist) means that a skilled artisan created the image on the original plate based on some original work that was by created the artist. For example, Picasso created many oil paintings throughout his career. Some of these were reproduced later as lithographs on paper. These “after” works were approved by Picasso, but a skilled artisan created the original lithographic plate rather than Picasso himself.
There is no automatic correlation of “by” and “after” to “hand signed” and “hand numbered”. Some works “by” Picasso are hand signed and hand numbered, but some are not. Some works “after” Picasso are hand signed and hand numbered, but again some are not.
It was a Francis Bacon print. (signed) ed.180 Saw it just before the auction began and bid on it and won. I didn't do some research before but when I received the piece it was framed in a ikea cheap frame and the picture was a bit blurry. It was supposed to be a grano lithography (i never heard of it before) but it looks like a cheap digital copy.I did some research on the web and found nothing about this print.In fact FRancis Bacon never produced this print at all. Christies did an auction a couple of months ago titled: Francis Bacon,The complete prints and the print I bought wasn't feature in the sale. I need to send them a proof by an expert to be refund.I told them that it was clearly a fake but they told me that their experts told it was a genuine one!!
It says "after" in the title, implying it was produced after his death
I think "after" means in the style of, but not by the artist in question. When something can't be confirmed (or is known not to be by the artist) the auction houses use "after".
As template for this granolithograph served the painting ‘Portrait of Isabel Rawsthorne’, that Francis Bacon created in 1966 of the artist. It is now in the Tate Collection, London.
This is the bit that clears them says the real painting served as the template for this Grandlitho
Cheeky bastards complete ripoff but technically they are safe etc.
Shit just noticed it was pricey too. Really bad
People should also note English auction houses are about the safest as they do have laws protecting the customer especially when your not present.
Almost everywhere else does not so the big London houses are about the safest especially if the auction is in London.
While I've never purchased anything from this online auction house I have paid attention to a number of their listings and they do list both fake, non-standard (without proof of authenticity) and dodgy items. Fake being the Banksy Vienna door, non-standard being a Banksy £10 note, and dodgy being Gerhard Richter prints that were actually smaller sized posters that in my eyes were intended to pass as the limited edition versions. I would avoid using them.
Thx for posting your mistake though as serves as a good warning on this auction house and may save others from the same mistake.
I won't use Mary Mc Carthy and Digard any more as she gave me a false condition report on a piece which arrived in poor condition. Was genuine etc just a bit rough round the edges.
I don't think I will have problem because it's described as ''After'' .PIcasso, Miro and a bunch of artists did litho prints described as After and they were all signed, numbered and legit.The problem with this one is: It's doesn't exist in the Corpus of Francis Bacon and it's ''signed'' with his signature and numbered from an edition of 180.At the end the signature should be fake.
Last Edit: Jun 19, 2015 17:19:39 GMT by galerie_coa