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Post by sleepy on Jul 8, 2015 15:21:55 GMT
Never? - in your own thread you contradict yourself - If knew how to link to the thread i would but as i recall you were trying to sell your own banksy bits and called someone else out for fake tenners - they then called you out and flagged at least two accounts that you had been shill-bidding your own banksys (including the SM you had been touting for ages) as well as the numerous 'signed' banksy tenners with envelopes you were selling and had sold previously You responded saying you were giving the signed envelope away as free with the tenner as you couldn't say whether or not it was fake - so what part of that isn't selling a tenner on eBay ? As for multiple accounts I'm sure littlelegs was one that was attributed to you - guess that the value of a new place - you can get away with things and pretend you aren't wishingiwaslucky anymore and snowy! Thread From the other place: 3 cheap Bankys on Ebay Beware And then you were flipping an Eine set of Modern Art at 4 times cost and an AP set of X's for almost double cost on here : www.newurbaart.co.ukPeople should know who they deal with and how they operate - that IS for the good of all forums Still at least now you are getting in a mess, so your facts are being outed, I never sold any Banksy tenner or fake, you are saying i'm selling loads via multiple accounts (5) now that's down to some dodgy one which is definitely nothing to do with anyone i know. The other 4 you mention, please post so we can all see what you are making up in your deluded mind, just as an added extra, the triple x's i sold for £250 which is around half price not double.....oh dear your facts are really, what's the word, erm, oh, lies! Ha, everyone please beware this joker, thinks he knows everything, but it's somewhere in one of his heads and they work independently. The truth will out, always. Thanks.
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Post by bubba on Jul 8, 2015 16:46:09 GMT
Still at least now you are getting in a mess, so your facts are being outed, I never sold any Banksy tenner or fake, you are saying i'm selling loads via multiple accounts (5) now that's down to some dodgy one which is definitely nothing to do with anyone i know. The other 4 you mention, please post so we can all see what you are making up in your deluded mind, just as an added extra, the triple x's i sold for £250 which is around half price not double.....oh dear your facts are really, what's the word, erm, oh, lies! Ha, everyone please beware this joker, thinks he knows everything, but it's somewhere in one of his heads and they work independently. The truth will out, always. Thanks. So you weren't selling a tenner even though you said you were? And you weren't asking £600+ for the AP set of x's or £10k for the set of Eine Modern Art? Your right - I am confused now but isn't someones muddying the water? Suppose why you 'quoted me' but removed your statement about selling a tenner, amended the link i put to your website www.newurbanart.co.uk and changed the reference to the shill-bidding on your Toxic Mary (changing TM to SM) ? whats that shit about Now we all know you aint FR but I guess you see a vacant position on this forum, I don't think it ever needs filling. I understand, Pissed me off when bad robot turned up again - that bitter fucker's delivery is so much better than mine, I'm just a blunt c.
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Post by bubba on Jul 8, 2015 17:04:58 GMT
what is your background in the scene then if you don't mind me asking as I genuinely thought you were new to the scene I started and ran a non-profit community arts organization for years and we put on tons of shows of street artists, helped organize outdoor painting events, and held free art classes for children living in poverty, plus community outreach, fundraisers for the homeless etc.... here's a picture from one of the shows featuring street artists: none of that makes me a Dran expert, but it doesn't mean I haven't been following this world for a long time Dont get me wrong - if theres anything that stands out about you it is your social and community awareness and support, and yes, from your background it seems you have been involved in arts but i don't think Street Artists or Urban Art as it is defined and followed here. Had you had any presence on any of the other forums, even EB. ? There is no shame in admitting you are relatively new to this scene yet have had lots of involvement with community related art projects. But there is a vast difference and when in a position of power where everyone looks up to you (with the best will in the world) there is a potential to misinform people and influence there decisions if you are not up-front about your expertise.
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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on Jul 8, 2015 17:21:36 GMT
I started and ran a non-profit community arts organization for years and we put on tons of shows of street artists, helped organize outdoor painting events, and held free art classes for children living in poverty, plus community outreach, fundraisers for the homeless etc.... here's a picture from one of the shows featuring street artists: none of that makes me a Dran expert, but it doesn't mean I haven't been following this world for a long time Dont get me wrong - if theres anything that stands out about you it is your social and community awareness and support, and yes, from your background it seems you have been involved in arts but i don't think Street Artists or Urban Art as it is defined and followed here. Had you had any presence on any of the other forums, even EB. ? There is no shame in admitting you are relatively new to this scene yet have had lots of involvement with community related art projects. But there is a vast difference and when in a position of power where everyone looks up to you (with the best will in the world) there is a potential to misinform people and influence there decisions if you are not up-front about your expertise. never on a forum before UAA. Reason being I didn't have time to, as I was busy doing other things away from a computer, setting up shows with street artists was one of many things I've been involved with. I don't consider myself an expert, though I have been following street art (I'll admit, mostly American based artists) since the late 90's.. Like anyone, I'm always learning. and god knows I don't think anyone should be looking up to me and I don't consider myself to have any power. but someone asked me, by name, for an opinion so I helped as best I could. and my opinion was basically, "I don't know enough about this print to give you a definitive answer, so be cautious and ask someone who does". So I'm not sure what your issue is? I told them pretty much exactly what you're saying I should have
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Post by bubba on Jul 8, 2015 17:45:51 GMT
Dont get me wrong - if theres anything that stands out about you it is your social and community awareness and support, and yes, from your background it seems you have been involved in arts but i don't think Street Artists or Urban Art as it is defined and followed here. Had you had any presence on any of the other forums, even EB. ? There is no shame in admitting you are relatively new to this scene yet have had lots of involvement with community related art projects. But there is a vast difference and when in a position of power where everyone looks up to you (with the best will in the world) there is a potential to misinform people and influence there decisions if you are not up-front about your expertise. never on a forum before UAA. Reason being I didn't have time to, as I was busy doing other things away from a computer, setting up shows with street artists was one of many things I've been involved with. I don't consider myself an expert, though I have been following street art (I'll admit, mostly American based artists) since the late 90's.. Like anyone, I'm always learning. and god knows I don't think anyone should be looking up to me and I don't consider myself to have any power. but someone asked me, by name, for an opinion so I helped as best I could. and my opinion was basically, "I don't know enough about this print to give you a definitive answer, so be cautious and ask someone who does". So I'm not sure what your issue is? I told them pretty much exactly what you're saying I should have Then I misinterpreted what I had read, i dint meant to be an argument or attack so I apologise. As much as you want to be joe blow with the rest of us on here, as more newbies come they will see you as the messiah and everything you say and do WILL carry a lot of weight and WILL sway people, that was the point i guess.
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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on Jul 8, 2015 17:56:32 GMT
never on a forum before UAA. Reason being I didn't have time to, as I was busy doing other things away from a computer, setting up shows with street artists was one of many things I've been involved with. I don't consider myself an expert, though I have been following street art (I'll admit, mostly American based artists) since the late 90's.. Like anyone, I'm always learning. and god knows I don't think anyone should be looking up to me and I don't consider myself to have any power. but someone asked me, by name, for an opinion so I helped as best I could. and my opinion was basically, "I don't know enough about this print to give you a definitive answer, so be cautious and ask someone who does". So I'm not sure what your issue is? I told them pretty much exactly what you're saying I should have Then I misinterpreted what I had read, i dint meant to be an argument or attack so I apologise. As much as you want to be joe blow with the rest of us on here, as more newbies come they will see you as the messiah and everything you say and do WILL carry a lot of weight and WILL sway people, that was the point i guess. no need to apologize. I get what you mean, and maybe I wasn't clear enough that I don't know enough about the Dran print to give a definitive answer. If you want to discuss it further, feel free to shoot me a PM
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Post by IggyWiggy on Jul 8, 2015 18:01:01 GMT
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Post by hunter007 on Jul 8, 2015 19:49:50 GMT
Well that was crazy . I think someone see's power others may not, and wants a bit of that power ha ha
Can we have a messiah t shirt please!
@federationofideas
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Post by ZeBigBoss on Jul 8, 2015 19:49:57 GMT
This is a very funny thread - where's all the knowledge - you are asking someone that sells fake signed banksy tenners through about 5 different eBay accounts and someone who may 'run' this place but has about as much experience as the guys selling the tenners This is for free: The first edition of this print was an unsigned off-set litho of 500 Dran produced a screened version of 69 which had had-sprayed backgrounds and were signed and numbered Pure Evil purchased 25 of the edition and sold them directly to guys on the forum Those issued in France have the stamp - those from PE don't. The backgrounds are hand sprayed before they were printed - there is no 'hand-finishing' Research via Streetartnews? you have got to be shitting me, even if i did i wouldn't admit to that. Whats happened to the knowledgable ones I was just tagged Bubba, I don't consider myself as a knowledgable one. This said, you are correct. As for me, I just remember PE indeed got/bought a few from GHP... funnily a year after and around same time GHP half-closure (closed now). And this thread in another forum will confirm that, and that it came from printer, and that they sold pretty quickly at 250 gbp, and that bubba is surely right. [edit] - I just read the all thread waaah, I agree about sitting in front of PC and having to do ,
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2015 22:57:23 GMT
sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ sleepy bubba shootagain@sakyamuni ZeBigBossI don't have the words really. I check back in a day later to find this mess. I read the thread twice feeling a bit regretful. Thank you all for your input, it was enough information to discourage me not to pursue. One detail remains: If Exquisite was the printing company, and they printed an edition of 69, then why were the 25 PE versions not stamped as the rest? PE was merely a distribution channel. Also, among the theatrics, you provided clues to the sources that can validate the editions true authenticity. If anyone catches wind of one for sale from a credible source, give me a shout. Short story: I was going to take a shot once at a member from Anny... He rubbed me wrong the wrong way; and a very wise entity intervened and said: "Be careful who you antagonize... you don't understand their culture". Fair enough I thought, its not my type of setting.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2015 23:07:49 GMT
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Post by sleepy on Jul 8, 2015 23:15:45 GMT
sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ sleepy shootagain@sakyamuni ZeBigBossI don't have the words really. I check back in a day later to find this mess. I read the thread twice feeling a bit regretful. Thank you all for your input, it was enough information to discourage me not to pursue. One detail remains: If Exquisite was the printing company, and they printed an edition of 69, then why were the 25 PE versions not stamped as the rest? PE was merely a distribution channel. Also, among the theatrics, you provided clues to the sources that can validate the editions true authenticity. If anyone catches wind of one for sale from a credible source, give me a shout. Short story: I was going to take a shot once at a member from Anny... He rubbed me wrong the wrong way; and a very wise entity intervened and said: "Be careful who you antagonize... you don't understand their culture". Fair enough I thought, its not my type of setting. Most of us are here to try to help,some are trolls, just here to make fights. I trust you need to realise that there are always different mentalities about. Good luck in your search, will keep an eye out.
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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on Jul 8, 2015 23:22:49 GMT
Well that was crazy . I think someone see's power others may not, and wants a bit of that power ha ha Can we have a messiah t shirt please! @federationofideas get working on your design for the member designed Tshirt contest
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Post by ZeBigBoss on Jul 14, 2015 13:12:56 GMT
sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ sleepy bubba shootagain@sakyamuni ZeBigBossI don't have the words really. I check back in a day later to find this mess. I read the thread twice feeling a bit regretful. Thank you all for your input, it was enough information to discourage me not to pursue. One detail remains: If Exquisite was the printing company, and they printed an edition of 69, then why were the 25 PE versions not stamped as the rest? PE was merely a distribution channel. Also, among the theatrics, you provided clues to the sources that can validate the editions true authenticity. If anyone catches wind of one for sale from a credible source, give me a shout. Short story: I was going to take a shot once at a member from Anny... He rubbed me wrong the wrong way; and a very wise entity intervened and said: "Be careful who you antagonize... you don't understand their culture". Fair enough I thought, its not my type of setting. Only PE or the printing house can tell !!
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Post by geester on Jul 14, 2015 15:44:52 GMT
This is a very funny thread - where's all the knowledge - you are asking someone that sells fake signed banksy tenners through about 5 different eBay accounts and someone who may 'run' this place but has about as much experience as the guys selling the tenners This is for free: The first edition of this print was an unsigned off-set litho of 500 Dran produced a screened version of 69 which had had-sprayed backgrounds and were signed and numbered Pure Evil purchased 25 of the edition and sold them directly to guys on the forum Those issued in France have the stamp - those from PE don't. The backgrounds are hand sprayed before they were printed - there is no 'hand-finishing' Research via Streetartnews? you have got to be shitting me, even if i did i wouldn't admit to that. Whats happened to the knowledgable ones Thanks for clearing that up. I'm the seller of the print on Ebay, it's 100% genuine and was bought from a well respected member of the other forum, he had first pick of the Pure Evil allocation. And yes, it is a piece of paper covering the edition number bottom left. sleepy - In future get your facts straight before calling fake/dodgy/iffy on other peoples sales! Oh, and hello to the other side
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Post by IggyWiggy on Jul 14, 2015 16:22:35 GMT
This is a very funny thread - where's all the knowledge - you are asking someone that sells fake signed banksy tenners through about 5 different eBay accounts and someone who may 'run' this place but has about as much experience as the guys selling the tenners This is for free: The first edition of this print was an unsigned off-set litho of 500 Dran produced a screened version of 69 which had had-sprayed backgrounds and were signed and numbered Pure Evil purchased 25 of the edition and sold them directly to guys on the forum Those issued in France have the stamp - those from PE don't. The backgrounds are hand sprayed before they were printed - there is no 'hand-finishing' Research via Streetartnews? you have got to be shitting me, even if i did i wouldn't admit to that. Whats happened to the knowledgable ones Thanks for clearing that up. I'm the seller of the print on Ebay, it's 100% genuine and was bought from a well respected member of the other forum, he had first pick of the Pure Evil allocation. And yes, it is a piece of paper covering the edition number bottom left. sleepy - In future get your facts straight before calling fake/dodgy/iffy on other peoples sales! Oh, and hello to the other side Thanks geester, congrats on your 1st post
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Post by geester on Jul 14, 2015 16:29:44 GMT
Thanks IggyWiggy
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Post by cnh on Aug 2, 2015 22:11:30 GMT
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Post by riq on Dec 10, 2018 18:12:15 GMT
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Post by riq on Dec 10, 2018 18:21:41 GMT
If you search on instagram you can already find some pictures. Looks pretty good! Wish I could be there now too!
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Post by mikeydread on Dec 10, 2018 19:30:43 GMT
Seems to be on all week so hopefully i'll get there....
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Post by pingoo on Dec 11, 2018 6:01:38 GMT
It looks damn nice ! Wide range of medium used, many pieces very well thought, as always with Dran. Father Christmas came early in London this year ! Unfortunatly i can't go myself but keep those pictures coming it's seems there's loads of artworks there. (i love the donkey chilling in the hay) http://instagram.com/p/BrOBx4iFFcB
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Post by pingoo on Dec 11, 2018 13:40:41 GMT
Seems the donkey is also on some postcards, if a forum member could grab me one it would be fabulous
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Post by Commissioner on Dec 11, 2018 19:50:31 GMT
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Post by dot on Dec 11, 2018 21:48:05 GMT
i may manage a trip up there tomorrow.
could be interesting... last time it was.... a nice vibe.
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