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Post by stender on Sept 3, 2015 15:51:08 GMT
I would like to setup a screen printing studio in essex as there are none, so thought I had nothing to lose doing a kickstarter fund. Negatives are I am limited to interested parties being those in and around essex unless some generous artists or galleries wanted to support, and also that I can't think of things to offer for donations and it's only those ones which seem to be successful. Lastly I have estimated about £50k so is that being a bit too hopeful? Unless someone can ask banksy to donate a couple of vip CYW's  Any thoughts or tips? heres a link. Not put it live. |
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Post by hunter007 on Sept 3, 2015 16:15:32 GMT
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Post by Still Hate Thatcher on Sept 3, 2015 16:50:21 GMT
I don't understand...?
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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on Sept 3, 2015 17:22:56 GMT
is the 50K for equipment or the space itself? if interested I can give you some tips to save a shit load of money via some DIY blood sweat and tears... just made a 2K exposure unit for under $200 in costs and a couple printing stations for basically nothing
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Post by stender on Sept 3, 2015 19:27:19 GMT
Hunter - they don't do open access. Yes they do courses and editioning but you can't use the equipment.
Thatcher - I dont understand what you don't understand?
Fred - The bulk of the money is for the space itself. I can afford to buy used equipment but don't have the room for it at home. Second hand vacuum benches are often coming up on eBay for between £300-£1000. Theres a big exposure unit on eBay at the moment for just under £2k. I would have to have a proper vacuum bench and exposure unit tbh especially printing upto A1/A0.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 23:57:50 GMT
A Kickstarter project is simply that ...A Project.
I recommed you rethink your approach. First off by putting numbers together that make sense.
You either accumlate figures by renting the equipment necessary to produce a "single" screenprint, or ask a local screen printer, as the ones listed above, if its possible to rent their space and equipment for a one time run. After accumulating these figures, then you pitch your project on Kickstarter.
Asking for 50K GBP, to open a location without presenting your experiecne, credentials, or business plan... comes across faulty; because sadly, its just not feasible and not the way things work.
I think essentially that's what everyone is getting to.
I suggest you start by speaking with an artist who may be willing to partner with you on a project; and take it from there. The forum supports most members with creative endeavors... and if you get your shit right, then we got you. Good Luck!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2015 0:01:44 GMT
Speaking of prints.. When will your first drop be dodcoquelicot ? With that eqipment you won a couple of months back. Waiting for it .........................................................................  |
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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on Sept 4, 2015 0:09:05 GMT
Hunter - they don't do open access. Yes they do courses and editioning but you can't use the equipment. Thatcher - I dont understand what you don't understand? Fred - The bulk of the money is for the space itself. I can afford to buy used equipment but don't have the room for it at home. Second hand vacuum benches are often coming up on eBay for between £300-£1000. Theres a big exposure unit on eBay at the moment for just under £2k. I would have to have a proper vacuum bench and exposure unit tbh especially printing upto A1/A0. the exposure unit I built is 27x38" with a vacuum top . But yeah if you need to pay for a space, no way around that expense |
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Post by stender on Sept 4, 2015 9:25:40 GMT
A Kickstarter project is simply that ...A Project. I recommed you rethink your approach. First off by putting numbers together that make sense. You either accumlate figures by renting the equipment necessary to produce a "single" screenprint, or ask a local screen printer, as the ones listed above, if its possible to rent their space and equipment for a one time run. After accumulating these figures, then you pitch your project on Kickstarter. Asking for 50K GBP, to open a location without presenting your experiecne, credentials, or business plan... comes across faulty; because sadly, its just not feasible and not the way things work. I think essentially that's what everyone is getting to. I suggest you start by speaking with an artist who may be willing to partner with you on a project; and take it from there. The forum supports most members with creative endeavors... and if you get your shit right, then we got you. Good Luck! If I just wanted to produce a single screen print I'd go to a studio or get one to edition for me. As I have said there is no open access studio in essex and I am not looking to create a single print. I'm not looking to run a professional print studio, an open access studio isn't a money maker, i'm looking to cover costs but the main idea is to provide affordable access to screen printing in Essex. I've posted my experience, I have printed and am a member of an open access studio and have discussed with artists who have thought it to be a good idea. I stated what the money would cover and I have priced the equipment roughly. The budget is accounting for used equipment so it does vary greatly. Again the property rent and rates etc varies greatly. I would fit to budget. I have posted similar on here and the other side and not had much feedback so haven't progressed it, but I have nothing to lose, it either gets funded or doesn't. I was looking more for advice and suggestions on raising the funds. As I said the projects which are successful are the ones which offer something in return for the pledge and that is a struggle with this project. Maybe get artists interested? donate pieces to raise funds? would galleries be interested? investing in their future by producing more artists maybe? The project isn't live and is a work in progress hence why I asked for opinion. Thanks for your input I'll perhaps be more specific on budget. There is a property I have seen available at moment but may not be around by the end. Fred - exposure unit sounds good. Do you have any photos/details you could send me? Thanks |
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Post by dodcoquelicot on Sept 4, 2015 10:29:44 GMT
Speaking of prints.. When will your first drop be dodcoquelicot ? With that eqipment you won a couple of months back. Waiting for it ......................................................................... Yes I know, but I did not ordered for the equipment and I want to thank and apologize at sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ : cost should be ok, around 60, but I did not understand all these products that I would have to buy ( are they expensiver, will I find them in France ? ) and how to proceed... So, now it's a bit in stand-by.. Cheers too @adamsactor ! |
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Post by hunter007 on Sept 4, 2015 10:33:32 GMT
I cant see a link ,
so not sure if there is more info out there.
but my quick pints with these kickstartes, you need to offer something that people want. I dont think there is anything?. And to me it just seems like , why not make a screeen in ya shed or something? Buy a shed,
You know the Stencil shed guy?
something like that maybe ?
I think sometimes with these kickstarter things can come across as a bit lazy at times, not saying this is you in this case. But if you wanted to do this before kickstart, how would you have achieved this?. Hardwork? saving? mutual people with shared interest coming together?. Prehaps a scaled down version of a shop premises? I dont know
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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on Sept 4, 2015 11:18:22 GMT
A Kickstarter project is simply that ...A Project. I recommed you rethink your approach. First off by putting numbers together that make sense. You either accumlate figures by renting the equipment necessary to produce a "single" screenprint, or ask a local screen printer, as the ones listed above, if its possible to rent their space and equipment for a one time run. After accumulating these figures, then you pitch your project on Kickstarter. Asking for 50K GBP, to open a location without presenting your experiecne, credentials, or business plan... comes across faulty; because sadly, its just not feasible and not the way things work. I think essentially that's what everyone is getting to. I suggest you start by speaking with an artist who may be willing to partner with you on a project; and take it from there. The forum supports most members with creative endeavors... and if you get your shit right, then we got you. Good Luck! If I just wanted to produce a single screen print I'd go to a studio or get one to edition for me. As I have said there is no open access studio in essex and I am not looking to create a single print. I'm not looking to run a professional print studio, an open access studio isn't a money maker, i'm looking to cover costs but the main idea is to provide affordable access to screen printing in Essex. I've posted my experience, I have printed and am a member of an open access studio and have discussed with artists who have thought it to be a good idea. I stated what the money would cover and I have priced the equipment roughly. The budget is accounting for used equipment so it does vary greatly. Again the property rent and rates etc varies greatly. I would fit to budget. I have posted similar on here and the other side and not had much feedback so haven't progressed it, but I have nothing to lose, it either gets funded or doesn't. I was looking more for advice and suggestions on raising the funds. As I said the projects which are successful are the ones which offer something in return for the pledge and that is a struggle with this project. Maybe get artists interested? donate pieces to raise funds? would galleries be interested? investing in their future by producing more artists maybe? The project isn't live and is a work in progress hence why I asked for opinion. Thanks for your input I'll perhaps be more specific on budget. There is a property I have seen available at moment but may not be around by the end. Fred - exposure unit sounds good. Do you have any photos/details you could send me? Thanks this is basically what I made... www.t-shirtforums.com/screen-printing-equipment/t180287.html#post1066504 |
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Post by stender on Sept 4, 2015 11:25:47 GMT
I cant see a link , so not sure if there is more info out there. but my quick pints with these kickstartes, you need to offer something that people want. I dont think there is anything?. And to me it just seems like , why not make a screeen in ya shed or something? Buy a shed, You know the Stencil shed guy? something like that maybe ? I think sometimes with these kickstarter things can come across as a bit lazy at times, not saying this is you in this case. But if you wanted to do this before kickstart, how would you have achieved this?. Hardwork? saving? mutual people with shared interest coming together?. Prehaps a scaled down version of a shop premises? I dont know That's what i've said in my post, people want something in return and I am limited on what I can offer, and it's only going to be applicable to people near by and who are interested. That's why I was asking for opinions/suggestions. I have the money to buy some second hand equipment myself but I don't have the room for it. The proper equipment is a fair size. Table/exposure unit/washout area/darkroom/light box/drying rack's/table space etc... it's gonna be a big shed! I haven't been lazy about this I have looked around at whats out there facilities wise and property. I can't justify paying £10-15k+ for a property for a year which I am only going to use as a hobby and probably only at weekends and evenings. I have posted about trying to find 3 or 4 others interested in splitting but no luck there. Kickstarter was a last resort. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2015 12:48:36 GMT
A Kickstarter project is simply that ...A Project. I recommed you rethink your approach. First off by putting numbers together that make sense. You either accumlate figures by renting the equipment necessary to produce a "single" screenprint, or ask a local screen printer, as the ones listed above, if its possible to rent their space and equipment for a one time run. After accumulating these figures, then you pitch your project on Kickstarter. Asking for 50K GBP, to open a location without presenting your experiecne, credentials, or business plan... comes across faulty; because sadly, its just not feasible and not the way things work. I think essentially that's what everyone is getting to. I suggest you start by speaking with an artist who may be willing to partner with you on a project; and take it from there. The forum supports most members with creative endeavors... and if you get your shit right, then we got you. Good Luck! If I just wanted to produce a single screen print I'd go to a studio or get one to edition for me. As I have said there is no open access studio in essex and I am not looking to create a single print. I'm not looking to run a professional print studio, an open access studio isn't a money maker, i'm looking to cover costs but the main idea is to provide affordable access to screen printing in Essex. I've posted my experience, I have printed and am a member of an open access studio and have discussed with artists who have thought it to be a good idea. I stated what the money would cover and I have priced the equipment roughly. The budget is accounting for used equipment so it does vary greatly. Again the property rent and rates etc varies greatly. I would fit to budget. I have posted similar on here and the other side and not had much feedback so haven't progressed it, but I have nothing to lose, it either gets funded or doesn't. I was looking more for advice and suggestions on raising the funds. As I said the projects which are successful are the ones which offer something in return for the pledge and that is a struggle with this project. Maybe get artists interested? donate pieces to raise funds? would galleries be interested? investing in their future by producing more artists maybe? The project isn't live and is a work in progress hence why I asked for opinion. Thanks for your input I'll perhaps be more specific on budget. There is a property I have seen available at moment but may not be around by the end. Fred - exposure unit sounds good. Do you have any photos/details you could send me? Thanks At the airport... Vegas Bound. Something occurred to me while sorting through these post. Have you considered taking a Non-profit approach? Like an incubator for screenprinters... I understand this is not the way you have it envisioned, but I think you might have a bit more success raising funds on Kickstarter. Just let it sulk a few days.... But consider that running an incubator will allow you to create you own projects, and you'll also be running the organization. Through it, you can maintain your livelihood as well contribute to your community. It's easier to receive charitable funds and grants to help you keep afloat in this manner. This idea basically covers all the fundamentals you've listed or have concerns with, and you'll find much more support with this approach. Consider it..... Is all. |
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