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Post by elioti on Sept 7, 2015 12:08:25 GMT
Really enjoying the conversations between the artists we have on the forum on this board.
So i was interested in hearing about peoples processes in the creation of their art, some artists like to keep this to themselves so share or don't what you feel comfortable with but in my mind the more we talk and share these things the more great art we will get.
Interested in hearing all about how much people use online images, if they take their own, do you draw your designs or is it all computer aided and designed work?
And if you know about other artists processes feel free to share as i know not all on the forum produce their own work for example Ben Eine does all his typography work by hand
I look forward to reading what should be a great thread!
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Post by elioti on Sept 9, 2015 20:36:03 GMT
A slower start then i would have liked, where are all our artists at...?
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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on Sept 16, 2015 11:41:21 GMT
love to talk about this stuff but don't know where to start. maybe give us a specific topic to start things off?
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Post by elioti on Sept 16, 2015 11:54:42 GMT
See i love it all as well so would love to here about everyones processes and different tricks people have to achieve certain works, i didn't want to narrow it down so anyone could contribute whatever they wanted to the thread be it screen printing, original works or the actual set-up of the pieces. Feel free to take control and steer it in any direction!
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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on Sept 16, 2015 12:12:11 GMT
hmm. well I know we have quite a few screen printers on here, and not all of us have the money or the space for a proper professional print studio. what are some tricks people have done to squeeze the most out of their setup?
here's mine, pretty much in order of use:
-found an old plotter on Craigslist for $30 - to print film positives
-made an exposure unit using plans found online
-black out my windows with cardboard and dark fabrics to create a dark room
-bought a used 4/1 press but built 2 custom tables on it for printing large prints
-built a washout booth out of a large plastic tub, some wood, and vinyl coating
-made a DIY "drying cabinet" using a dehumidifier and the same blacked out room
I'd love to build a custom cabinet but haven't found any plans online
what's everyone else do to save time/space/money ?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2015 18:24:50 GMT
I used to work on a single piece until it was finished. Sometimes, I would lose sight of what I was trying to achieve (or just get bored with it) and I would stop working for a period of days, weeks or even months. This meant one large work could take a year or more to complete. Nowadays, I am working on many works at the same time. These works are also very different, thematically speaking. When I get bored, I move to a different work. When I get bored again, I move again. The end result is many incomplete (but moving forward) pieces in my work space. I kind of like it, to be honest, because each work informs the others. I learn something from one piece and then apply it to another.
Art Attention Deficit Disorder you could call it.
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Post by adman on Sept 16, 2015 18:30:01 GMT
I used to work on a single piece until it was finished. Sometimes, I would lose sight of what I was trying to achieve (or just get bored with it) and I would stop working for a period of days, weeks or even months. This meant one large work could take a year or more to complete. Nowadays, I am working on many works at the same time. These works are also very different, thematically speaking. When I get bored, I move to a different work. When I get bored again, I move again. The end result is many incomplete (but moving forward) pieces in my work space. I kind of like it, to be honest, because each work informs the others. I learn something from one piece and then apply it to another. Art Attention Deficit Disorder you could call it. Like your style shadynasty! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2015 18:49:47 GMT
It's all coming together. Next is displaying it somewhere so I can geek out on people's reaction to all them.
That will be easier said than done, I imagine.
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Post by Southbound on Sept 16, 2015 19:54:48 GMT
I'm a filmmaker, not a painter or screenprinter. But my process for creating anything (whether writing, production or post) usually begins with hiking a dozen or so miles (preferably on the Appalachian Trail).
I then watch copious amounts of relevant movies, commercials, or music videos (and listen to the commentaries or read related materials).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2015 21:06:29 GMT
I'm a filmmaker, not a painter or screenprinter. But my process for creating anything (whether writing, production or post) usually begins with hiking a dozen or so miles (preferably on the Appalachian Trail). I then watch copious amounts of relevant movies, commercials, or music videos (and listen to the commentaries or read related materials). Just curious, which part of the trail? |
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Post by Southbound on Sept 16, 2015 21:13:18 GMT
I'm a filmmaker, not a painter or screenprinter. But my process for creating anything (whether writing, production or post) usually begins with hiking a dozen or so miles (preferably on the Appalachian Trail). I then watch copious amounts of relevant movies, commercials, or music videos (and listen to the commentaries or read related materials). Just curious, which part of the trail? Great Smokey Mtns. but when in prod or post it is dependant on where I am shooting or cutting. Unfortunately I don't usually work where I live. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2015 21:15:56 GMT
Just curious, which part of the trail? Great Smokey Mtns. but when in prod or post it is dependant on where I am shooting or cutting. Unfortunately I don't usually work where I live. Really beautiful down there. |
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Post by Southbound on Sept 16, 2015 21:24:40 GMT
Great Smokey Mtns. but when in prod or post it is dependant on where I am shooting or cutting. Unfortunately I don't usually work where I live. Really beautiful down there. very peaceful, it is very nice to leave the traffic and noise of LA or NYC and come home to quiet, stars, and Mtn air. |
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Post by elioti on Sept 20, 2015 12:37:25 GMT
Ok, spoke to a couple people about this but thought that this is the perfect thread to post it on. I am currently trying to really finesse my own design skills so i can put out some amazing prints & originals so am trying to take in as many techniques that i can to produce some really great stuff. Now i love the way in which Artists like Dolk & Banksy get so much detail in their pieces with the shading and textures that it shows, take a look:   The details on the dress of Dolks piece are amazing almost look like the texture of a raw canvas then you have the shading on the copper in the Banksy piece again such detail. How do you think they produce this ? Added do you think their pieces are hand drawn, computer graphics, found images ? Would love to hear what the community think and who may know some techniques in achieving these amazing results. |
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Post by FAKE on Sept 27, 2015 18:29:10 GMT
Ok, spoke to a couple people about this but thought that this is the perfect thread to post it on. I am currently trying to really finesse my own design skills so i can put out some amazing prints & originals so am trying to take in as many techniques that i can to produce some really great stuff. Now i love the way in which Artists like Dolk & Banksy get so much detail in their pieces with the shading and textures that it shows, take a look: The details on the dress of Dolks piece are amazing almost look like the texture of a raw canvas then you have the shading on the copper in the Banksy piece again such detail. How do you think they produce this ? Added do you think their pieces are hand drawn, computer graphics, found images ? Would love to hear what the community think and who may know some techniques in achieving these amazing results. How most artists go and produce a print is making an original on canvas or paper and get it scanned with a library/museum scanner. This way you can get the result Dolk has on his prints. (that I really appreciate my self) It is also the way to get the closest to the original. |
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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on Sept 27, 2015 18:37:43 GMT
Ok, spoke to a couple people about this but thought that this is the perfect thread to post it on. I am currently trying to really finesse my own design skills so i can put out some amazing prints & originals so am trying to take in as many techniques that i can to produce some really great stuff. Now i love the way in which Artists like Dolk & Banksy get so much detail in their pieces with the shading and textures that it shows, take a look: The details on the dress of Dolks piece are amazing almost look like the texture of a raw canvas then you have the shading on the copper in the Banksy piece again such detail. How do you think they produce this ? Added do you think their pieces are hand drawn, computer graphics, found images ? Would love to hear what the community think and who may know some techniques in achieving these amazing results. How most artists go and produce a print is making an original on canvas or paper and get it scanned with a library/museum scanner. This way you can get the result Dolk has on his prints. (that I really appreciate my self) It is also the way to get the closest to the original. some artists also spray their stencils directly onto film so they don't loose anything in the digitizing process |
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Post by FAKE on Sept 27, 2015 19:08:21 GMT
How most artists go and produce a print is making an original on canvas or paper and get it scanned with a library/museum scanner. This way you can get the result Dolk has on his prints. (that I really appreciate my self) It is also the way to get the closest to the original. some artists also spray their stencils directly onto film so they don't loose anything in the digitizing process Yes! I have seen EuBob do that and this it is quite clever ;-) But this way you will not get the structure of the surface you paint on. And Dolk is alo using dry brushing in his work, so this way it is not possible to paint it directly on the film. |
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Post by elioti on Sept 27, 2015 21:58:25 GMT
Great to see you on here FAKE, i did wonder if they were actually done straight onto the canvas material (referring to dolk) but i do know that photoshop has canvas effects but it just repeats the same pattern instead of like his work having defined areas and with no repeat.
Do you reckon Banksy does much the same technique then with his more speckle shading effect.
Added would still be interested to know if they are drawing their own artwork and deciding when it comes to stencil work by eye what to cut or using found images and photo editing software to create posterised images and such of a mix of the two.
Would be interested to hear your thoughts fake and more about your own process into creating your artworks!
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Post by FAKE on Sept 28, 2015 18:44:23 GMT
Great to see you on here FAKE, i did wonder if they were actually done straight onto the canvas material (referring to dolk) but i do know that photoshop has canvas effects but it just repeats the same pattern instead of like his work having defined areas and with no repeat. Do you reckon Banksy does much the same technique then with his more speckle shading effect. Added would still be interested to know if they are drawing their own artwork and deciding when it comes to stencil work by eye what to cut or using found images and photo editing software to create posterised images and such of a mix of the two. Would be interested to hear your thoughts fake and more about your own process into creating your artworks! About Banksy, it is commonly known he uses images from books and magazines for his stencils in the past. There is a great thread about this somewhere on the UUA forum. with the original images and the artworks next to it. It is also suggested that some of the pieces like the "monkey cabinet" is not painted by Banksy him self. but he did claim he painted them... one thing is for sure he can paint and draw. Creating my own artworks is a combination of drawing, making my own photographs and using stock images. this proces can go very fast and very slow. But when I am in the flow I can make 5 to 10 new artworks in a day. But this does not mean they will ever see the light of day. I think 90% of all artworks I make will never be painted on a wall or on canvas. (I have a pretty big library of artworks by now haha) My stencil work is and was always very clean and sharp, and recently I have let that go a bit and am going the dirty way. Meaning, doing the stencils as sharp as I can and then adding spray effect after the stencil is done. I also love to wok with the brush to give it an even dirtier look and feel. For me there are no rules in what I do. Just have fun and that is the reason I started doing stencils. Somehow most of my works tell a story about me, how I feel and what I am thinking or doing or experiencing. |
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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on Sept 28, 2015 18:49:52 GMT
About Banksy, it is commonly known he uses images from books and magazines for his stencils in the past. There is a great thread about this somewhere on the UUA forum. with the original images and the artworks next to it. It is also suggested that some of the pieces like the "monkey cabinet" is not painted by Banksy him self. but he did claim he painted them... one thing is for sure he can paint and draw. that thread has migrated over here (with our own creations). one of my favorite threads on here but I'm out of gas  feel free to add any we missed so far www.notbanksyforum.com/thread/736/superimposed-appropriation-arthere's a 2 for 1   |
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Post by elioti on Sept 28, 2015 19:09:22 GMT
We be great to have a look through that thread no doubt it will be a nightmare to find now but i'll have to have a dig around later on and see if i come across it.
Great to hear an insight into how you create your work, i know what you mean in having a large library of artworks that will more then likely never see the light of day.
I really like the gritty/textured images i have quite a large collection now up on my walls but I am your father by Dolk is a favourite just due to like you have said the dirtiness of the piece with the paint drops and overspray.
The recent release of your own Vader, Prophet & Lord are great and the type i would have on my walls with that great dirty and gritty feel with the finishing on it!
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Post by elioti on Oct 4, 2015 19:13:59 GMT
I am still in awe of the effect of the images that Dolk and Banksy, this in particular i have got a large image of it so click through and have a look, it doesn't even look like the original would have been done with spray paint the effect is almost like a charcoal drawing with the shading on the copper.  |
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Post by Dr. Plip on Oct 4, 2015 19:22:33 GMT
If that was a pencil/charcoal drawing. Look at her dress. Reminds me of the repetitive wallpaper drawings from at least one of the other Banksy sketches. |
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Post by jeezuzjonessnr on Oct 5, 2015 5:50:48 GMT
I am still in awe of the effect of the images that Dolk and Banksy, this in particular i have got a large image of it so click through and have a look, it doesn't even look like the original would have been done with spray paint the effect is almost like a charcoal drawing with the shading on the copper. Remember reading years ago on the other forum that banksybhad another artist draw the stop and search? Any one remember this? |
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Post by blackappleart on Oct 5, 2015 8:05:36 GMT
I am still in awe of the effect of the images that Dolk and Banksy, this in particular i have got a large image of it so click through and have a look, it doesn't even look like the original would have been done with spray paint the effect is almost like a charcoal drawing with the shading on the copper. Remember reading years ago on the other forum that banksybhad another artist draw the stop and search? Any one remember this? He did a pretty good job on the Dorothy stencil at Barely Legal  |
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