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Post by sean on Mar 31, 2016 18:29:20 GMT
Blimey! I've walked in on the middle of a decent discussion about art......
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Post by sean on Mar 31, 2016 18:32:52 GMT
What you also get with a Neate exhibition at Elms is the enthusiasm and passion shown by Paul.
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Post by pandemonia on Mar 31, 2016 20:31:39 GMT
Johnny not sure his secondary pricing is driven by his gallery pricing. His secondary pricing is probably more based on his auction results which have always been significantly lower than his primary pricing. So your question why buy secondary when you can buy primary is valid to a point if you want to buy a piece in a later style as less of these have been back out to the market. However, I'm sceptical to a degree, if his auction results had been better I think you would have seen a steady increase in primary on the back of that. His primary has in fact gone down from his primary peak selling point probably because it had to in order to generate sales. Again, not a practice that engenders support from those who have bought a peak primary. Caveat emptor and all that..... My view is that some (but not all) people with older sales are now holding to avoid losses as people hope for a bounce back.
This isn't and shouldn't be though a money led discussion, he has produced some great pieces in each style, I just think he is a more consistent painter. The running and the seaside pieces in my opinion are poor despite the craving to show a dimensional aspect. His portraits more consistent and some spectacular. I know his work, so can see the change in styles, I've been to all his shows at Elms and have a large portrait piece and smaller pieces in my collection. One of his most interesting pieces and probably the start of his dimensional work was the ripped canvas made into Jesus and a large sculpture , in fact I remember a photographic edition of this being made at the time ( if anyone has a photo).
I hope for a re recognition of his talent in the UK, I also hope that he really listens to his instinct for his show later this year, but most importantly I hope on seeing his work I and others get the rush they first got seeing his large portrait pieces. It was a different time then admittedly, there was a burgeoning scene and people felt genuinely part of something before it turned to the somewhat insipid thing it has become today.
I wish you well with your collecting but let's ensure that we have some healthy debate, Poldark made a genuine point and I sympathise with his position and am also nervous about Adam's current development. If Adam was reading this he may quite rightly say fuck you you don't need to be nervous I'm entirely content and if so fine.
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Post by pandemonia on Mar 31, 2016 20:37:41 GMT
What you also get with a Neate exhibition at Elms is the enthusiasm and passion shown by Paul. Yes undoubtedly but remember he is ultimately in the sales business, and has a family and kids to support. No doubting he is a proper enthusiast who has been showing outsiders for years. he told me a great story about his Bukowski exhibition from years back fondly remembering a guy from Liverpool who had made the trip despite being skint just to be there. He does have genuine passion but I think a lot of artists got jacked off with the pricing approach and left hence the sole focus on Adam being an English artist who now ironically sells mainly in Asia. I hope they both do well but sometimes a dose of realism is required.
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Post by poledance on Mar 31, 2016 20:54:20 GMT
Undoubtedly elms gallery space is lovely, Paul is passionate, Fiona helpful and Adam humble. Having said all of that it still feels Adams talent is being squandered, perhaps it's all just too comfortable. I always shudder to think about the dramatic rise in prices followed by the slow decrease over the years and this mirrored by the lets be honest steady fall in the quality of the work displayed...there's nearly always a stand out piece in the works displayed but overall do they evoke passion, excitement and interest as earlier shows? It's a no from me. I wish it wasn't though.
i don't think Adams career ever fully recovered from the mass print release at paintings, pots and prints.
deep end though what a fucking piece.
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Post by Still Hate Thatcher on Mar 31, 2016 21:08:06 GMT
For me it was "Nothing on TV"
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Post by poledance on Mar 31, 2016 22:04:18 GMT
For me it was "Nothing on TV" Great piece picked it up the day it was released. Neate did staring into the abyss perfectly. When I think of Neates career I always think of micallefs too, the bad call on prints, the over pricing, the cooling off big time. The difference being Antony has developed a coherent style moving forward, I don't know if where he's reached has legs, but it certainly evokes more positive and negative feelings when I view it.
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Post by pandemonia on Mar 31, 2016 22:16:07 GMT
Exactly, coherence is the precise thing I'm hoping for with Neate.
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Post by poledance on Mar 31, 2016 22:40:41 GMT
Fuck when I look at some of these pieces and from recent shows they literally leave me cold, they feel so flat and lifeless which considering they contain movement makes me laugh.
It's also the reason eelus's latest release makes me so fucking angry, art should touch your soul - whatever you want to call it -but something 'higher' at its best ....so much urban art does exactly fuck all. It's feeds your entitlement, your greed, your consumerist urge, but when it speaks it has a monotone flat voice, there's no song To the image just a simple image that's easily digestible. It's fucking sad after all this time there so many people are so willing to just fulfil a short term urge instead of looking for more. fucking bollocks I hate urban art.
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Post by pandemonia on Mar 31, 2016 22:51:07 GMT
Fuck when I look at some of these pieces and from recent shows they literally leave me cold, they feel so flat and lifeless which considering they contain movement makes me laugh. It's also the reason eelus's latest release makes me so fucking angry, art should touch your soul - whatever you want to call it -but something 'higher' at its best ....so much urban art does exactly fuck all. It's feeds your entitlement, your greed, your consumerist urge, but when it speaks it has a monotone flat voice, there's no song To the image just a simple image that's easily digestible. It's fucking sad after all this time there so many people are so willing to just fulfil a short term urge instead of looking for more. fucking bollocks I hate urban art. I've gone abstract and I'm not messing!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2016 3:57:58 GMT
Must say I thought many of the pieces from his last two UK shows were absolutely terrific.
I am a big portrait fan of his and my works are all portraits of diff forms but must say the last one Ibought which is a small one is definateley one of the best.
As mentioned before I do also prefer his painted works but some of his sculptural works have been superb. Just delve back into the pictures of his shows really excellent. Think because he moves around there are always challenges for the viewer but personally Imlike that. Is every piece to my taste no but must say do love what he has been doing all along really and think it is great to see.
Likewise I love his older work but also love the road it has taken so don't hanker after it.
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Post by jeezuzjonessnr on Apr 1, 2016 7:07:46 GMT
Fuck when I look at some of these pieces and from recent shows they literally leave me cold, they feel so flat and lifeless which considering they contain movement makes me laugh. It's also the reason eelus's latest release makes me so fucking angry, art should touch your soul - whatever you want to call it -but something 'higher' at its best ....so much urban art does exactly fuck all. It's feeds your entitlement, your greed, your consumerist urge, but when it speaks it has a monotone flat voice, there's no song To the image just a simple image that's easily digestible. It's fucking sad after all this time there so many people are so willing to just fulfil a short term urge instead of looking for more. fucking bollocks I hate urban art. I've gone abstract and I'm not messing! Haha me too!! getting old Tastes change. I have always loved Neate's work, I prefer the paintings also (although could never afford an OG) I did like the first few pieces he did in the new direction and gutted I didn't buy the first 'hug'. I think deep down I started collecting when him and micallef took off and always liked the works so I aim to have on my wall an old print by each, probably neates tea drinker. Always loved it an only 75 ed.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2016 13:00:56 GMT
I'm loving the smaller portraits and the red pieces. Not as keen on the flatter figurative works. It's been said before, but they do have a Beryl Cook feel to them. The smaller pieces seem more experimental and I think progressive in style.
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Post by IggyWiggy on Jun 5, 2016 12:44:24 GMT
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Post by poledance on Jun 5, 2016 13:06:26 GMT
I'd take this in a heartbeat over every bit of tat being sold at some 'art' market today
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Post by IggyWiggy on Jun 5, 2016 14:45:40 GMT
"This limited edition silkscreen print, Adam Neate's first, is based on the iconic painting 'SIMULATION THEORY ANXIETY No.1' which was featured in the landmark exhibition 'Dimensionalist Painter' held at the gallery at Elms Lesters Painting Rooms, London in October 2015."
Adam Neate's first? Not sure what that means.
Love the textured look of this piece. Anxiety occupying and introverting. What's not to like?
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Post by mikeydread on Jun 5, 2016 19:09:23 GMT
Looks absolutely bloody lovely.
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Post by dot on Jun 5, 2016 20:12:52 GMT
interesting thread.... must put up a few images sometime - from the distant past.
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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on Jun 5, 2016 20:30:52 GMT
beautiful print. seems like a ton of work to just make 18 prints. good on them for the restraint
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Post by Commissioner on Oct 12, 2016 11:38:20 GMT
Between 23rd March and Thursday 14th April 2016, we exhibited a selection of new dimensional surface paintings, on canvas, by Adam Neate.
This exhibition was filmed and edited by Steven Williams. Music composed and performed by Milo McKinnon.
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Post by johnnyh on Oct 13, 2016 1:16:17 GMT
Cracking video and soundtrack really nicely put together
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Post by Commissioner on Oct 19, 2016 1:09:23 GMT
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Post by johnnyh on Oct 19, 2016 8:46:31 GMT
Cheers for the pics @commisioner superb. Looks a terrific show and work. Great to see
Thx J
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Post by blackdogprints on Oct 19, 2016 10:49:16 GMT
Great pics going to try and get there this week
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Post by Commissioner on Oct 19, 2016 11:37:58 GMT
Great pics going to try and get there this week This body of work is on unitl the 22nd Oct
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