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Post by ouroboros on Jun 1, 2017 17:42:15 GMT
A new and likely moribund feature, but i am going to connect this up to the mains and give it a few cheeky amps to see if the corpse begins to breathe. Show a bit of art and give us some guff about its significant to you and why it strikes a tone with you. It can any anything and there is no right or wrong, no discussion of cash, no grandstanding. I have lots of faves, but will start you off wiith this one- not street art but is meant for the street Q and babies ?
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 Haeberle, Ron L. (photographer) Art Workers' Coalition (designer) 1970 Offset poster Right. The swinging 60's is dead. Hendrix is plummeting into his twilight year, Jim morrison is drinking himself into an early grave and will no longer fit into his leather trousers, the beatles are at each others throats and Altamont is still raw.And there is Vietnam. grim The poster is simple - text superimposed over a picture of Mai lai dead.The picture is taken by a war photographer, the text is taken from an interview with a GI at the scene.Both unerringly simple until combined The text is blood red- not cinema gore, but real life blood colour, the shade you see after a cleared up car accident or on a pavement after fight outside a nightclub. the question and answer could easily be taken from a pop art piece - Roy Lichensten could have used it and without context, it would be an addition to a decorative wall hanging, no more. combine the image - from one of the key moments in the first massively media covered conflict we have seen , with the text and it become uncomfortable. It doesnt need any more explaination. With most US citizens having a direct link to vietnam in one way or another, this is a truly raw suggestion to chuck out into the US manstream.This is both invigorating and brave, but possibly cowardly and critical- depending on your take.it will always provoke some kind of reaction, whether you know the background story or not.of its time , a snapshot of the contrdictions at play as people try to make sense of what they are seeing before them on rolling media And yours ? And yours |
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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on Jun 1, 2017 18:04:04 GMT
A new and likely moribund feature, but i am going to connect this up to the mains and give it a few cheeky amps to see if the corpse begins to breathe. Show a bit of art and give us some guff about its significant to you and why it strikes a tone with you. It can any anything and there is no right or wrong, no discussion of cash, no grandstanding. I have lots of faves, but will start you off wiith this one- not street art but is meant for the street Q and babies ?
A. And babies
Haeberle, Ron L. (photographer) Art Workers' Coalition (designer) 1970 Offset poster Right. The swinging 60's is dead. Hendrix is plummeting into his twilight year, Jim morrison is drinking himself into an early grave and will no longer fit into his leather trousers, the beatles are at each others throats and Altamont is still raw.And there is Vietnam. grim The poster is simple - text superimposed over a picture of Mai lai dead.The picture is taken by a war photographer, the text is taken from an interview with a GI at the scene.Both unerringly simple until combined The text is blood red- not cinema gore, but real life blood colour, the shade you see after a cleared up car accident or on a pavement after fight outside a nightclub. the question and answer could easily be taken from a pop art piece - Roy Lichensten could have used it and without context, it would be an addition to a decorative wall hanging, no more. combine the image - from one of the key moments in the first massively media covered conflict we have seen , with the text and it become uncomfortable. It doesnt need any more explaination. With most US citizens having a direct link to vietnam in one way or another, this is a truly raw suggestion to chuck out into the US manstream.This is both invigorating and brave, but possibly cowardly and critical- depending on your take.it will always provoke some kind of reaction, whether you know the background story or not.of its time , a snapshot of the contrdictions at play as people try to make sense of what they are seeing before them on rolling media And yours ? And yours does it matter if it's something we have on our walls or not? |
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Post by ouroboros on Jun 1, 2017 18:06:05 GMT
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Post by pingoo on Jun 1, 2017 18:08:48 GMT
Does it matter if we own the piece or not ?
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Post by ouroboros on Jun 1, 2017 18:13:41 GMT
no- its just to discuss art rather than fetishise value- so whatver you want to show and ramble on about. no judgement or critisism
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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on Jun 1, 2017 18:18:55 GMT
don't mean to do such an obvious one, but this piece still moves me every time I see it  Obviously, the historic context is what drives it's power, but I've always loved it just as much (if not more) for another reason... this was Norman Fucking Rockwell, Mr. Saturday Evening Post, the image of Coca-Cola, the guy who has a painting in every doctor and dentist in America, waking up one day, looking around, and realizing that the status-quo aint right, and he's in a strong position to actually do something about it it might be one of the most daring, fuck you paintings of all time... ... it's an artist standing up for what they beleive in, even if it may cost them fame and fortune. It's Mr. Rockwell looking deep within himself and deciding that all of his artwork before it was meaningless and that his new cause was Civil Rights. |
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Post by milo99 on Jun 1, 2017 18:43:04 GMT
don't mean to do such an obvious one, but this piece still moves me every time I see it Obviously, the historic context is what drives it's power, but I've always loved it just as much (if not more) for another reason... this was Norman Fucking Rockwell, Mr. Saturday Evening Post, the image of Coca-Cola, the guy who has a painting in every doctor and dentist in America, waking up one day, looking around, and realizing that the status-quo aint right, and he's in a strong position to actually do something about it it might be one of the most daring, fuck you paintings of all time... ... it's an artist standing up for what they beleive in, even if it may cost them fame and fortune. It's Mr. Rockwell looking deep within himself and deciding that all of his artwork before it was meaningless and that his new cause was Civil Rights. Wow 😲 that's awesome,never heard or seen about that piece. What do the armbands say? |
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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on Jun 1, 2017 18:52:09 GMT
don't mean to do such an obvious one, but this piece still moves me every time I see it Obviously, the historic context is what drives it's power, but I've always loved it just as much (if not more) for another reason... this was Norman Fucking Rockwell, Mr. Saturday Evening Post, the image of Coca-Cola, the guy who has a painting in every doctor and dentist in America, waking up one day, looking around, and realizing that the status-quo aint right, and he's in a strong position to actually do something about it it might be one of the most daring, fuck you paintings of all time... ... it's an artist standing up for what they beleive in, even if it may cost them fame and fortune. It's Mr. Rockwell looking deep within himself and deciding that all of his artwork before it was meaningless and that his new cause was Civil Rights. Wow 😲 that's awesome,never heard or seen about that piece. What do the armbands say? Deputy US Marhsall - you can read about it here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Orleans_school_desegregation_crisisbtw - the name of the painting is "The Problem We All Live With" which is pretty amazing too Here's another great one  |
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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on Jun 1, 2017 18:54:48 GMT
I think what also gets overlooked with Rockwell is just how AMAZING an artist he was... it's a specific type of realism I don't think any other artist has ever managed to get
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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on Jun 1, 2017 18:56:51 GMT
one more for good measure  |
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Post by milo99 on Jun 1, 2017 19:13:55 GMT
Thanks for link, I knew that the schools were desegregated but when you see like that it must have been scary for such a small innocent girl
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Post by ouroboros on Jun 1, 2017 20:43:33 GMT
the rockwell stuff is fantastic - obama had it the WH iirc.
your choice doesnt have to be political - just something that stirs your lions. or tigers. whatever
this is an art forum - lets discuss art more!
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Post by riq on Jun 2, 2017 10:57:34 GMT
Not sure if this is the stuff you wanted to see here, but I will never forget the moment I saw this photo for the first time many years ago:  Not really sure if it's the graffiti or the photo or both of it, but it made me want to know more about the history of graffiti and totally changed my view about graffiti. |
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Post by milo99 on Jun 2, 2017 11:16:47 GMT
Not sure if this is the stuff you wanted to see here, but I will never forget the moment I saw this photo for the first time many years ago: Not really sure if it's the graffiti or the photo or both of it, but it made me want to know more about the history of graffiti and totally changed my view about graffiti. Perfect photo and painting, have you got it on the wall? |
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Post by riq on Jun 2, 2017 11:27:29 GMT
Not sure if this is the stuff you wanted to see here, but I will never forget the moment I saw this photo for the first time many years ago: Not really sure if it's the graffiti or the photo or both of it, but it made me want to know more about the history of graffiti and totally changed my view about graffiti. Perfect photo and painting, have you got it on the wall? Had it printed out by myself and framed on the wall for some time but since I'm buying so much art it disappeared in the crates  |
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Post by Harry Connisco on Jun 2, 2017 14:17:22 GMT
Not sure if this is the stuff you wanted to see here, but I will never forget the moment I saw this photo for the first time many years ago: Not really sure if it's the graffiti or the photo or both of it, but it made me want to know more about the history of graffiti and totally changed my view about graffiti. Have to agree 100% This and many more of those early stand alone pieces are the exact reasons I love street art and it opened me up to all sorts of different mediums. |
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Post by IggyWiggy on Jun 29, 2017 17:05:20 GMT
How old was I when I first saw this piece? I was a child, but the details are lost in the mists of time. I remember that it seemed vast, but more than its imposing size was its strange and gruesome subject matter. Seeing such a scene before me struck a powerful chord in my impressionable mind. I didn't understand what was going on but it was explained to me. Many years later, I recall my interpretation of that explanation being that a woman had done a good dance and, as a reward, was granted a wish. Her wish was for the head of a man. That explanation itself created a dozen further questions. It has always stuck with me as has the way I felt when I first saw it.  'Salome receives the Head of John the Baptist' by Caravaggio (some people argue that it was a different artist). Still on display at the National Gallery, Trafalgar Square, London. Approx 1m x 1m |
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Post by chainsaw on Jul 2, 2017 22:36:31 GMT
One pice of art? Can i do 2?  if that works, Its by Patricia Tew from the early 50's (link from below) thedecoratedschool.blogspot.co.uk/2011_05_15_archive.htmlA mural I saw most days at school before I was 12...... the closest thing to street art apart from scrappy tags where I grew up, for some wierd reason it has always stuck in my head. Based on a local legend. the other bit is this  David Hepher - Albany Flats, 1972 I remember the scale, texture and realism from skiving off of school to go to art galleries (and a record shop off of Carnaby street) in the early 80's I just wanted to run my hands over it and drink in the almost photo realitic detail, the skill in creating it, and the almost anarchic subject matter compared to anything "taught" in school at the time. Both have stuck with me ever since, one i can't access now, and one i'll need much deeper pockets than i'll ever have to own, but i could go 300 miles to see now. Anyway thats two which have always struck a tone. |
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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on Jul 3, 2017 14:02:13 GMT
One pice of art? Can i do 2? if that works, Its by Patricia Tew from the early 50's (link from below) thedecoratedschool.blogspot.co.uk/2011_05_15_archive.htmlA mural I saw most days at school before I was 12...... the closest thing to street art apart from scrappy tags where I grew up, for some wierd reason it has always stuck in my head. Based on a local legend. the other bit is this David Hepher - Albany Flats, 1972 I remember the scale, texture and realism from skiving off of school to go to art galleries (and a record shop off of Carnaby street) in the early 80's I just wanted to run my hands over it and drink in the almost photo realitic detail, the skill in creating it, and the almost anarchic subject matter compared to anything "taught" in school at the time. Both have stuck with me ever since, one i can't access now, and one i'll need much deeper pockets than i'll ever have to own, but i could go 300 miles to see now. Anyway thats two which have always struck a tone. That David Hepher painting is unreal. I've always been obsessed with "Brutalist" architecture and that might be the best representation of it i've ever seen |
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Post by chainsaw on Jul 3, 2017 17:35:20 GMT
Some brutalist architecture is fantastic. I love the Heyward Gallery, the rough timber shuttering on the concrete exterior is so tactile. The Alexandra Road housing estate Mind you, I like the way concrete buildings weather too. I once did this:   i even photoshopped some graf on it.  it can just be seen in the background here on a table full of ruined/post apoc buildings some mates and I slapped together in a week.  and more graf here amoung the inch high zombies lol  |
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Post by adman on Jul 3, 2017 17:58:47 GMT
Some brutalist architecture is fantastic. I love the Heyward Gallery, the rough timber shuttering on the concrete exterior is so tactile. The Alexandra Road housing estate Mind you, I like the way concrete buildings weather too. I once did this: i even photoshopped some graf on it. it can just be seen in the background here on a table full of ruined/post apoc buildings some mates and I slapped together in a week. and more graf here amoung the inch high zombies lol Ha! That is fabulous! Did you make it for an animation/film or just for the love of Z? |
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Post by chainsaw on Jul 3, 2017 18:15:29 GMT
It was for a game at a toy fair in London at the excel and an excuse to get in for free, meet up in real life and drink heavily before and afterwards.
Three of us did the buildings and base (about 6 foot by 14 iirc), and about twenty of us from all over the country (and one in the US) painted post apoc gang members, zombies and the odd vehicle.
It was for members of the public to have a go at killing zombies and other gang members while trying to get supply drops.
A good laugh, and a great way to meet up in real life.
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Post by randomname on Jul 19, 2017 16:55:27 GMT
Piss Christ was major news when I was a kid. That was the first time I realized art wasn't just pretty pictures in a museum. +large+image.jpg) |
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Post by chainsaw on Jul 19, 2017 17:18:02 GMT
I've never seen that before. Can you tell me about it?
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Post by randomname on Jul 19, 2017 17:36:25 GMT
It's by Andres Serrano. In 1987, he submerged a crucifix in a jar of his own urine and photographed it.
I probably never would have heard of it, except it won an award sponsored by the National Endowment for the Arts. Republican senators were outraged that a relatively small amount of taxpayer money went to someone who didn't share their views on mythological creatures. So they tried to strip the NEA of funding.
This made national (and probably international) news. And as a result, the artist received several death threats. Presumably from good Christian folk.
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