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Post by chainsaw on Sept 15, 2017 10:34:16 GMT
After Stenders passing comment in his thread about the costs of screen printing, I thought i'd take a closer look.
I have never screen printed in my life, never had the opportunity to try.
So I started looking at youtube. For me it was an eye opener, like I used to develop photos.
I even managed to find a local 5 week evening course for beginners... very tempted. If i can find space to do stuff in the future.
So how much does it cost to do a screen?
Any advice for a newbie?
looking deeper
"To access our facilities you will need to become a workshop member which costs £45 for the year and £3 per hour for workshop use."
"Materials such as inks and paper are available to purchase on a pay as you go basis, or you can bring your own."
"We also provide the option to rent a planchest drawer at a small cost to store your work and materials."
"Open access sessions run between 10:30am-4:30pm every Friday, Saturday and Sunday with the exception of when day courses are running. You will need to email us to book workshop time and check availability."
that seems like a good deal, if i can find somewhere to park in the city centre, and if I can get to grips with it.
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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on Sept 15, 2017 11:35:35 GMT
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Post by yobaby on Sept 15, 2017 11:44:07 GMT
It's always worth signing up for a weekend course to try it out, it's rewarding and you gain a new found appreciation when you look at the quality and techniques used on some of the prints coming out these days. Don't wear your favourite t-shirt if you sign up  |
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Post by chainsaw on Sept 15, 2017 11:46:00 GMT
Cheers, copies ordered.
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Post by chainsaw on Sept 15, 2017 11:48:09 GMT
It's always worth signing up for a weekend course to try it out, it's rewarding and you gain a new found appreciation when you look at the quality and techniques used on some of the prints coming out these days. Don't wear your favourite t-shirt if you sign up I have a huge apron  I learned how messy my kids get while painting the hard way. Got to wait for Mrs next shifts to be published before I find out if I can make the next newbies session. |
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Post by kernow on Sept 15, 2017 12:12:43 GMT
ello! Are those workshops at Bip? If so, parking isn't too bad - there are a few 'pay by meter' spots around there, or you can park for free slightly up the hill at the bottom of Whitehawk and walk down. It's only a 5 minute walk to get out of the permit zone. Might also be worth having a look at Tidy Prints in the North Laine - www.tidyprint.co.uk/ - they do intro sessions and also have open access. Might be more affordable and/or convenient. Nice people in there. Have fun! |
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Post by broke on Sept 15, 2017 12:19:56 GMT
i agree with fed, the best way of learning is doing, especially so with printmaking. in my studio i have to share 4 beds, 1 exposure unit and 1 washout booth between 60 people, so getting time to print can be a nightmare. Because of this, i have created a fairly crude setup at home where i can at least print my paper stencils, all you need is a screen squeegee and some ink, however using photo emulsion and burning a screen is far superior to using paper stencils, better quality, finer detail, larger quantity and faster turnaround, but for someone with a tight budget and not much room it suits me fine.
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Post by chainsaw on Sept 15, 2017 12:47:38 GMT
ello! Are those workshops at Bip? If so, parking isn't too bad - there are a few 'pay by meter' spots around there, or you can park for free slightly up the hill at the bottom of Whitehawk and walk down. It's only a 5 minute walk to get out of the permit zone. Might also be worth having a look at Tidy Prints in the North Laine - www.tidyprint.co.uk/ - they do intro sessions and also have open access. Might be more affordable and/or convenient. Nice people in there. Have fun! Bip? Brighton? nope its in the dark satanic north leedsprintworkshop.org/about-us/To the east side of city centre PS, cheers for the link, the price guide was useful. |
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Post by chainsaw on Sept 15, 2017 12:49:33 GMT
i agree with fed, the best way of learning is doing, especially so with printmaking. in my studio i have to share 4 beds, 1 exposure unit and 1 washout booth between 60 people, so getting time to print can be a nightmare. Because of this, i have created a fairly crude setup at home where i can at least print my paper stencils, all you need is a screen squeegee and some ink, however using photo emulsion and burning a screen is far superior to using paper stencils, better quality, finer detail, larger quantity and faster turnaround, but for someone with a tight budget and not much room it suits me fine. tight budget, but tighter on room. it would end up being done on the dining table here. |
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Post by kernow on Sept 15, 2017 13:46:02 GMT
Sorry! For some reason the wording was very familiar and I jumped to a Brighton-based conclusion!
The strangest stag-do of my life was in Leeds. Only 4 of us in attendance - the groom, the best man, and my brother and I who'd never met either of them before (but were friends with the bride). The groom and the best man were very obviously in love with each other and spent most of the evening singing shmultzy songs to each other in a hideous karaoke bar. My brother and I ate loads of chicken wings and were back at the hotel before 10pm. All in all, a perfect evening.
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Post by chainsaw on Sept 15, 2017 14:43:37 GMT
No probs, Last Stag do I went to in Leeds, at the Royal Armouries museum, handling Tudor period weapons and a talk by the curator to 12 of us in the back rooms, then on to stripping and dry firing SLRs... for some weird reason. Then down the pub to get pissed. I tend to avoid most of the city centre |
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Post by stender on Sept 16, 2017 18:20:09 GMT
Definitely do a course. I started off on a 2 day in London and it was great. Gave me the printing bug. Can recommend one if anyone wants to print in London.
Screen printing doesn't have to cost a lot just does for me. My problem is that there aren't a lot of open access studios (meaning you can just pay and use) and those that there are in London most don't have parking which is an issue when you have a large screen, box of paper and laundry bag full of inks and pieces.
I have to book time off work, Drive an hour each way, pay for parking, pay for studio time and it's usually a few sessions/trips. pay for positives to be printed and buy paper/inks etc...Your likely to waste a lot of ink and paper and time starting off and Can also be very stressful. It's not as easy as you may think. Lot's of things can and do go wrong.
It can sometimes work out cheaper to pay someone to edition for you.
You can also build kit yourself if your diy minded.
If you need any help or advice let me know.
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Post by chainsaw on Sept 16, 2017 18:36:09 GMT
Cheers stender. I no longer live anywhere near London, but I found a co-op workshop near me that does courses and lets you use the facilities. I am sure its not easy, lino prints 30 years ago...... and more recent first attempt at stencilling adds to appreciation of the skill and time involved in creating stuff those ways. I have to wait a few weeks for Mrs shifts to get announced to see if I can attend the course. At rush hour it would be an hour plus, but normally only 30 mins if I can find parking. In the mean time I can read the books when they get here and plan what to do. Its creative, I can have fun having a go, but I am under no illusions that anyone would buy one. |
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Post by riq on Sept 17, 2017 21:30:47 GMT
Can only repeat what others already said, try it and you will get addicted to it. I'm doing everything by myself and learned it through the internet. There are plenty of videos and homepages that explain every step you need. To safe money I built everything by myself: the screens, the squeegee... Only bought Emulsion and the colour. Because of that it was very cheap to start it but it had plenty of error possibilities in it. The more money you invest the easier it gets as a starter I think. The books seem to contain all that stuff and wisdom too. Sadly I didn't found equal books in German. Guess they are out there but I didn't found them... But the most important thing is to learn out of the mistakes you are making. It can be really frustrating if you work hours to print something and in the end it doesn't work like you planned it. But it is such a great thing if you invest all that time and it works! As said at the beginning, not much new information for you. Just telling my story Whatever, have fun trying it! |
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Post by chainsaw on Sept 22, 2017 21:10:27 GMT
Righteo.. course booked, books arrived... i'm going to be busy.
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Post by broke on Sept 23, 2017 11:38:16 GMT
good luck man! i am sure you will thoroughly enjoy it. I've been toying with the idea of a ceramics course, never thrown a pot in my life.
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Post by chainsaw on Oct 1, 2017 14:08:01 GMT
OK I have am image I'd like to have a go at screen printing as part of the course (I suppose its running before i can walk)
I had planned it as a multi sprayed layered stencil, but..... lots of prints seen to use a variety of half tone etc for the shading when screen printing. I expect this sensibly reduces the layers.
So its a question for those that have done it.. how do you do this now-a-days? I used to use letratone sheets when doing dyeline prints many years ago, but these now appear hard to come by.
and I'd prefer a gradual shade but is this possible? Or do I just do it by hand?
PS ceramics course - go for it.
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Post by stender on Oct 1, 2017 18:49:49 GMT
Not sure what you mean but I send off to get my positives printed. If you want to print your own you need a decent printer (doesn't have to be expensive) and Rip software to get true opaque blacks and print on to decent acetate or depending on image detail polyester drafting film which is cheaper. You can use halftone layers but you need to read up on the LPI (lines per inch) and the screen mesh you have. Lot's of tinkering you can do in photoshop for halftones. Different angles and frequencies and dots, lines etc... I recommend this book for anyone wanting to learn about screen printing although there are a lot of you tube videos but mainly t shirt biased. Fine Art Screenprinting Book |
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Post by chainsaw on Oct 1, 2017 20:34:44 GMT
link doesn't work.... sorry
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Post by chainsaw on Dec 4, 2017 11:11:12 GMT
OK, feel free to laugh. First attempt at screen printing, I learned a lot and had fun. Loads of experimenting. Loads more to learn and play with in the future.. I think I have got the bug. Its my daughter on a see-saw adapted a bit  |
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Post by yobaby on Dec 4, 2017 11:41:11 GMT
Definitely worth framing that Well played Mr. Saw |
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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on Dec 4, 2017 14:25:46 GMT
OK, feel free to laugh. First attempt at screen printing, I learned a lot and had fun. Loads of experimenting. Loads more to learn and play with in the future.. I think I have got the bug. Its my daughter on a see-saw adapted a bit looks great for a first shot!! i think the yellow shirt might be off registration, unless that's what you were going for? |
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Post by chainsaw on Dec 4, 2017 15:43:08 GMT
Yep yellow was supposed to be off,
so was the minty green on this one. I tried some in front, some behind the figure
lots of experimenting, colour mixing /blends .... I even tried some talc on some prints (interesting effect), but my daughter chose this one, so its in an asda/walmart frame.
mix of half tones, wax crayon ? (those things you rip the paper off), paper cutouts, and rip outs on this one.
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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on Dec 4, 2017 18:04:23 GMT
Yep yellow was supposed to be off, so was the minty green on this one. I tried some in front, some behind the figure lots of experimenting, colour mixing /blends .... I even tried some talc on some prints (interesting effect), but my daughter chose this one, so its in an asda/walmart frame. mix of half tones, wax crayon ? (those things you rip the paper off), paper cutouts, and rip outs on this one. in that case, looks lovely! nice work |
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Post by happymeal on Dec 4, 2017 18:22:12 GMT
She looks badass! Good effort that man.
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