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Post by me on Apr 29, 2015 23:00:14 GMT
I have recently bought a couple of artist proof prints that are exactly the same as the original run with a much lower edition size. They are at the framers as we speak so I'm not asking to sell, I'm curious as I paid a higher price than the normal run for both pieces. Do you think artist proof prints are worth more? Could this be put into a rough percentage i.e an artist proof the same as the original run could command say 10% extra ( complete guess ). Or would it depend who the artist was?
Are artist proof prints more desirable?
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Post by alittle on Apr 29, 2015 23:01:55 GMT
Some people value them more than others. Personally, I have no interest in paying more for an AP.
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Post by hermit on Apr 29, 2015 23:04:41 GMT
In my opinion, if an AP has anything unique about it than its worth more, if just an over run, no price difference.
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Post by darwin on Apr 30, 2015 5:37:56 GMT
I think they're worth about the same
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2015 6:38:54 GMT
Generally they are priced higher. Good AP's often have a difference which makes them special and often unique.
Ones that are the. Same tend to only have a slight price increase. Others vary in price diff depending on the artist and the difference to the original and also subject to how many there are with that difference. So even the AP's can have a price diff depending on how the changes are perceived.
For example all the Napalm AP's by Banksy are similar but unique and some are better than others. Eg I have one but have seen a couple better than mine.
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Post by jeezuzjonessnr on Apr 30, 2015 7:05:59 GMT
Interesting thread..Have they always been priced higher ie. Back in the day when Picasso released prints? Or is it recent years (decades) where galleries price them higher as they are slightly different/unique?
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Post by jeezuzjonessnr on Apr 30, 2015 7:25:37 GMT
Interesting thread..Have they always been priced higher ie. Back in the day when Picasso released prints? Or is it recent years (decades) where galleries price them higher as they are slightly different/unique? Learn something every day:) answer to my question here : en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artist%27s_proof |
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Post by amboguy on Apr 30, 2015 8:19:39 GMT
Depends on each print. I've got a Dran AP that's a completely different colourway to the print run so I was happy to pay more.
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Post by me on Apr 30, 2015 8:36:52 GMT
Thanks for your input people. The two prints I was talking about were:- Dolk - Teddy riot 1/20 Dolk - girl with teddy 1/12 I paid more for both but to be honest the Teddy riot normal run and artist proof were really hard to find. As I said I have no plans to sell either, I was just curious. Looking forward to getting them both back from the framers  |
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Post by cnh on Apr 30, 2015 10:51:35 GMT
Depends on each print. I've got a Dran AP that's a completely different colourway to the print run so I was happy to pay more. Would love to see this. |
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Post by amboguy on Apr 30, 2015 10:57:13 GMT
Depends on each print. I've got a Dran AP that's a completely different colourway to the print run so I was happy to pay more. Would love to see this. I'll try and dig it out. It's his 'Amor Es Eterno' image and is a real treat. |
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Post by me on Apr 30, 2015 11:36:18 GMT
I'd also love a sneaky peek |
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Post by illu on Apr 30, 2015 12:07:33 GMT
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Post by lha on Apr 30, 2015 13:51:13 GMT
Unless AP's are different from the main edition then not much point in paying extra! I have a few AP canvases that are unique - Martin Whatson Chinook Hearts canvas with gold hearts, the only gold canvas version out there. I know Martins not everyone's cup of tea! I'm not a fan of all the tagged releases however the Chinook is a cracking canvas. Also got a Kunstrasen Spot Remover - unique with a different spot layout than the main edition. Again, a cracking canvas!
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Post by dan993c2 on Apr 30, 2015 16:07:31 GMT
Not got any AP prints but I was recently lucky to see a BME AP which to me is one of my holy grails. I would definitely pay more for that than a standard print. Suppose it really depends who the artist is.
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Post by budenberg on Apr 30, 2015 20:40:59 GMT
If the AP is different from main print run then im happy to pay more. I bought Red edition IFTL AP last year and that cost me a small fortune but i have also had AP's that were similar to main print run previously that i only paid a few quid extra for.
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Post by supercockle on Apr 30, 2015 21:11:36 GMT
Depends on each print. I've got a Dran AP that's a completely different colourway to the print run so I was happy to pay more. Have you have 100 PMs asking if you're selling it yet? (Are you selling it?) |
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Post by supercockle on Apr 30, 2015 21:12:52 GMT
The smaller the edition, the more I'd pay but agree that the AP really needs to be different from the main edition to make it worthwhile.
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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on Apr 30, 2015 22:38:30 GMT
what really bugs me is when at artist releases an edition of say, 100 prints, with 20 identical AP's. Those aren't true AP's - is just an excuse to claim the edition size is smaller than it really is
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Post by Dr. Plip on Apr 30, 2015 22:42:58 GMT
what really bugs me is when at artist releases an edition of say, 100 prints, with 20 identical AP's. Those aren't true AP's - is just an excuse to claim the edition size is smaller than it really is Extra beer money. (probably) |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2015 6:00:51 GMT
Many todays AP and PP prints are printed after the original edition. Can i proove that? No. Is it true? Yes... Real AP and PP prints were printed on different paper, or had scratches on them or were a quick tryout for the original edition. When an artist and printer were satisfied they choose one of the PP pr AP's and went with that color/image/paper etc.. I can not imagine why there would be 50+ AP's (the same image,color,paper) from a certain image/print... Perhaps an artist should release 100AP's and 2 normal edition prints. Charge more for the AP's than te 2 normal ones... Everybody happy And to answer your question: Yes, AP's cost more |
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Post by amboguy on May 1, 2015 8:12:52 GMT
Depends on each print. I've got a Dran AP that's a completely different colourway to the print run so I was happy to pay more. Have you have 100 PMs asking if you're selling it yet? (Are you selling it?) Ha ha no , no PM's yet!! I might sell it one day but have no plans to right now. It's not his normal style and the image is very dark and slightly sinister, |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2015 14:32:27 GMT
@json ha ha your so right got to agree there think its pretty much the case nowadays that you can't actually buy an AP as they destroy them then print 20 perfect special ones to sell at a decent mark up
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Post by willybklyn on May 1, 2015 14:38:58 GMT
what really bugs me is when at artist releases an edition of say, 100 prints, with 20 identical AP's. Those aren't true AP's - is just an excuse to claim the edition size is smaller than it really is I agree...I feel an AP should be unique in some way, or at least hope that it would be?... |
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