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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on May 8, 2015 11:52:17 GMT
Yes? no? maybe?
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Post by dashboll on May 8, 2015 11:55:56 GMT
Personally think we should all have the right to comment, we're all grown up on here and nothing I have seen looks like it's got out of hand. Only my view, interested in what others think
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Post by IggyWiggy on May 8, 2015 12:53:35 GMT
laissez-faire
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Post by notmattl on May 8, 2015 12:56:03 GMT
Most forums I frequent don't allow replies in FS, and that avoids of lot of pointless discussions.
Saying fair price, great seller, whish I had the fund, stunning etc etc is very nice but not absolutely necessary, and besides there are a lot of other threads to spread this sort of kindness.
In a more rational humanity model, people would not feel compelled to derail sales threads and comment pointlessly. If they don't like it for some reason they would move along....
...but because that doesn't seem likely I feel FS threads are just best as a bulletin board of sorts
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Post by Dr. Plip on May 8, 2015 15:08:55 GMT
I would personally say no. Free speech and all that. They briefly took away the ability to comment on for sale threads on the UAA, and I don't think it pleased the majority of people.
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Post by jalternation on May 8, 2015 16:29:31 GMT
Surely the answer is to simply not read them if you don't like them?
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Post by tartarus on May 8, 2015 16:53:48 GMT
Problem is no one can out the scammers if we have no comments. and if you have to go through a gardener etc you may leave enough time for someone to get stung. Thats why it was reversed over in the other gaff. (no pun intended)
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Post by dirtburger on May 8, 2015 17:13:38 GMT
No chance. I learn quite a bit about some artists through comments about their work in the sales threads. Good to read people's opinions usually.
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Post by geswrk on May 8, 2015 19:55:20 GMT
True dat. FS threads are often quite informative, and an interesting way to place the current market position of a particular artwork. Personally I don't mind if someone says GLWTS it's supportive and harmless. It's more common for sales threads to bring out the trolls, this is where guardian angels have been forced to step in over the fence. Sometimes it feels like these guys need controlling and not the seller. Do we also need someone to keep the nasty weeds at bay?
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Post by jeezuzjonessnr on May 8, 2015 20:04:26 GMT
Surely the answer is to simply not read them if you don't like them? The problem on UAA is that countless sales threads appear on the 'recent posts' then when a thread turns nasty it becomes a 10 pager and fills the recent posts which is fucking annoying.. And more people read them and a more inclined to jump and and start slagging off or backing the guy selling. If these type of threads did not appear on the recent posts the majority of members won't see them and there will be way less bickering. I still go I there but hardly post as much because of all the sales from members and galleries.. One gallery kept plugging hua tian (or whatever his name is) constantly, driving people insane. Please don't do that here, if it starts happening I think us members will politely tell them to do one
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Post by jalternation on May 8, 2015 20:30:47 GMT
I agree about the UAA site, but think a lot of the problem is with labelling. I always put a FS/FT/WTB at the start of a thread title of that genre so that it is easy to skip over from the recent posts bit. Netiquette, innit.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 8:47:24 GMT
No moderation or censorship, there is no need for that in my view. This forum can self police pretty easily.
If something is deemed as being too expensive, then someone should be able to comment upon that and the seller can (if they wish) defend their position.
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Post by dirtburger on May 9, 2015 9:32:52 GMT
Also quite often when a seller names a price they are pretty much guessing. The alternative is the dreaded 'offers please'
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Post by flushdraw on May 9, 2015 9:39:51 GMT
Yes to comments, and yes to public crucificton if all you ever write on those threads is "PM"
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Post by notUmBongo on May 9, 2015 10:20:31 GMT
Yes to comments, and yes to public crucificton if all you ever write on those threads is "PM" PM UmBongo.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 15:06:14 GMT
Happy to see that we have a voice here. Looks like our voices have been heard!
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 15:52:13 GMT
Personally I say no because other forum users can vouch for the seller. Validation is key to art transactions.
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Post by dodcoquelicot on May 10, 2015 5:51:34 GMT
No chance. I learn quite a bit about some artists through comments about their work in the sales threads. Good to read people's opinions usually. i think as my friend, comments are instructive even if sometimes some are maybe " weird " ( what is the real reason to say. Bad things on a print or a seller per example ), they have the merit to clarify the things, and we learn a lot about. Why to disabled comments ?
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2015 6:35:17 GMT
Def agree with people should be allowed to comment. If people do not want comments they can sell on eBay or through a gallery/auction etc
Comments do a number of things.
The good seller/ great to deal with can often help in the trust issues Just as do not touch with barge pole looks fake etc. Price comments are helpful as well. Nothing wrong with opinions on the artist or the work. How it was attained etc.
Though understand the 10 page comments etc but surely the mods etc can help to manage that if getting a bit daft but think whole point of a forum is people giving opinions. May not always agree or like them just as they may not like mine but opinions are the point of a forum and we do not all think the same. Nor should people have to follow a lead of this is great and the best thing ever etc
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Post by barnsy on May 10, 2015 7:11:10 GMT
I find the comments very helpful on sale threads.
Helps relative newbies like me not make expensive mistakes.
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Post by dodcoquelicot on May 10, 2015 9:14:25 GMT
Yes, simply, why to hide the reality or " a " reality. One thing is sure : never say mint lol
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Post by nighthawk on May 11, 2015 14:07:48 GMT
Def agree with people should be allowed to comment. If people do not want comments they can sell on eBay or through a gallery/auction etc Comments do a number of things. The good seller/ great to deal with can often help in the trust issues Just as do not touch with barge pole looks fake etc. Price comments are helpful as well. Nothing wrong with opinions on the artist or the work. How it was attained etc. Though understand the 10 page comments etc but surely the mods etc can help to manage that if getting a bit daft but think whole point of a forum is people giving opinions. May not always agree or like them just as they may not like mine but opinions are the point of a forum and we do not all think the same. Nor should people have to follow a lead of this is great and the best thing ever etc I agree with this! Hopefully this place stays free of the blokes who like to rip for sale threads apart. If that happens, I see no problem in having people comment on for sale threads.
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Post by supercockle on May 12, 2015 19:41:13 GMT
For what it's worth I think comments, to protect those that might be considering buying a piece that others know to be damaged are a good idea.
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Post by #pfg242 on May 16, 2015 14:20:12 GMT
No! I was kicked of the other site for making a comment on price rules...this is a chat forum it works itself out!
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Post by icarus on May 16, 2015 19:43:55 GMT
Hello all - Tend to agree with PFG242
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