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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2015 20:37:33 GMT
Personally my favourite was the lady in the shower. Fitted perfectly in the lido. Perhaps a boyhood memory? Guess it was closest to what we would expect a Banksy piece to look like on an outside wall. Beautifully executed.
One of the few brighter pieces amongst the gloomy theme. Perhaps not any great meaning behind it but I always love it when the public interact with a Banksy piece - there were plenty of photographs being taken.
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Post by sean on Aug 23, 2015 20:40:44 GMT
gonna go with the Robbo tribute. Not much to say about it except a very classy move to include it and I'm sure his friends, family, and fans appreciate it Agreed. And the fact that's it's location isn't immediate adds to its inclusion.
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Post by sean on Aug 23, 2015 20:44:16 GMT
Personally my favourite was the lady in the shower. Fitted perfectly in the lido. Perhaps a boyhood memory? Guess it was closest to what we would expect a Banksy piece to look like on an outside wall. Beautifully executed. One of the few brighter pieces amongst the gloomy theme. Perhaps not any great meaning behind it but I always love it when the public interact with a Banksy piece - there were plenty of photographs being taken. One of my favourites, and a reminder of how he interacts with the environment. A classic Banksy piece; and yes, it was a popular photograph, myself included.
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Post by poledance on Aug 23, 2015 21:39:29 GMT
Thank you for taking part people, doesn't have to just be your favourites btw Shady the idea around the mermaid is evocative like it! Also the lido piece feels almost like a piece for the people ie. What I do, stands out to me as quite different to the show as a whole
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2015 22:13:59 GMT
The mermaid is also like if you took an old VHS cassette of a childhood favorite and popped it in the old VCR that has been sitting in the garage. Yes, the video still plays, but it's distorted as hell. A dismal reminder of the decay that we, and everything we enjoy, goes through.
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Post by Dr. Plip on Aug 23, 2015 23:29:44 GMT
Do you think if the ripples in the water are juuuust right, the mermaid's reflection looks normal?
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Post by poledance on Aug 23, 2015 23:30:07 GMT
Overview? This feels so sad, banksy has kids and is portraying a father despairing at the world he's bringing them into. Whilst yes the experience of visiting is enjoyable and there's fun to be had, I for the life of me can't understand experiencing it and not walking away relatively despondent but questioning a little bit more of the world around us?
ps. George monbiot loves the show now there's an opinion worth something!
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Post by poledance on Aug 23, 2015 23:32:57 GMT
The mermaid is also like if you took an old VHS cassette of a childhood favorite and popped it in the old VCR that has been sitting in the garage. Yes, the video still plays, but it's distorted as hell. A dismal reminder of the decay that we, and everything we enjoy, goes through. Yep that's the idea I find really evocative, vhs, recordings of the past degrading, redundant technology, misunderstood and the wrong choice ....
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Post by ninthsonv2 on Aug 23, 2015 23:50:17 GMT
Do you think if the ripples in the water are juuuust right, the mermaid's reflection looks normal? I think the artist meant Ariel's disfigured shape was due to being mostly under water... But what do I know? I never understood poems... I mean, read: "The Lovesong of J Alfred Prufrock." But I digress... Carry on.
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Post by curiousgeorge on Aug 24, 2015 0:08:03 GMT
Overview? This feels so sad, banksy has kids and is portraying a father despairing at the world he's bringing them into. Whilst yes the experience of visiting is enjoyable and there's fun to be had, I for the life of me can't understand experiencing it and not walking away relatively despondent but questioning a little bit more of the world around us? ps. George monbiot loves the show now there's an opinion worth something! I can relate to this. Most of his work has made me question parenthood and the social system we all live in and expose our children to. I hope this spurs on a bit of activism or people believing nothing and questioning everything. By all accounts it sounds like he struck a perfect balance in the artists he selected Viva la Banksy
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Post by poledance on Aug 24, 2015 4:18:44 GMT
Sit down, take a deep breath, allow all the competing voices demanding happiness to subside and have a little think about the art at dismaland. What did you see? What did you feel? Has it changed you in anyway? And ..... Discuss First up I'd like to talk about the refugee remote control boat lake. Humans of a certain age from the UK will remember going to fairs controlling boats around a lake, firing off their imagination about seafaring adventures, of one day being rich enough to afford a boat and woo the princess. Now boats are portrayed as the evil weapon of people smugglers and vessels carrying swarms of humans to countries they don't deserve to dwell within. We hear politicians saying those jumping the border maybe rapists or killers. We hear the Australian government take pride in bribing boats to turn round of forcibly pulling them to international waters. We hear the UK government laugh at the French and be unwilling to help the Italians as refugees look for a better life. But underneath it all, are real people, in real trouble, dehumanised by politicians and voters unwilling to think about their suffering. This piece by banksy cuts to the heart of the sick game the refugees are trapped within, dying to escape, control by the whims of those who don't care. No it's not cutting modern art, but it is heartbreaking and the way rich middle aged men look at it, sums up the fucked up world we live in. May be you should stop accusing, just looking at the pics and actually visit. Your quoting the obvious as it's obvious from the pics but to understand the piece fully you have to play it...:.:I suggest you dothenyou will not be quite so judgement slat anyone who actually did it and fully experienced the piece.........that's why Otis so good andcengages, hallenges the userwhatevertheir thoughts and views. Whether old and looking back and able to understand the news or very young and needing your parents to explain what's going on and why. Could you explain what you mean please? Are you saying driving remote control boats with refugees in it has a meaning I've missed? If so, I'd like to read your opinion, some of what you said seems to have been lost in autocorrect.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 6:58:29 GMT
I loved the half submerged police meat wagon with the kids slide, water lillies growing and grasses, again i didnt put much thought into it at the time just mesmerised by the surrealism. Id like to hear others thoughts on this, is it a reflection of the worrying times ahead for our children where those in authority are more consumed by increasing their own wealth and the safety and health of society in general is just a secondary factor, a dying factor?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 7:02:26 GMT
Some of the Diana piece went over my head at the time but in hindsight I see more to it. You are unwittingly involved in it when you have your photograph taken and then knowingly involved when you purchase the souvenir photograph at the end - drinking a cider overlooking the carnage! No differant than buying a newspaper or magazine with paparazzi photographs.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 7:17:30 GMT
Some of the Diana piece went over my head at the time but in hindsight I see more to it. You are unwittingly involved in it when you have your photograph taken and then knowingly involved when you purchase the souvenir photograph at the end - drinking a cider overlooking the carnage! No differant than buying a newspaper or magazine with paparazzi photographs. I got my photo taken and not for a second did i think anything but souvenir from the banksy show, looking at the photo now im guessing this wasnt exactly what the artist had in mind, theres me superimposed amongst the pap with a cheery smile and thumbs up, quite disturbing in a way.
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Post by poledance on Aug 24, 2015 9:08:21 GMT
Some of the Diana piece went over my head at the time but in hindsight I see more to it. You are unwittingly involved in it when you have your photograph taken and then knowingly involved when you purchase the souvenir photograph at the end - drinking a cider overlooking the carnage! No differant than buying a newspaper or magazine with paparazzi photographs. I got my photo taken and not for a second did i think anything but souvenir from the banksy show, looking at the photo now im guessing this wasnt exactly what the artist had in mind, theres me superimposed amongst the pap with a cheery smile and thumbs up, quite disturbing in a way. So glad to see someone get what I was driving at
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 10:13:43 GMT
I got my photo taken and not for a second did i think anything but souvenir from the banksy show, looking at the photo now im guessing this wasnt exactly what the artist had in mind, theres me superimposed amongst the pap with a cheery smile and thumbs up, quite disturbing in a way. So glad to see someone get what I was driving at Something else looking back, could be completely wrong, everytime i went for a drink i was asked "do you want to make that a double" "or something like that, being encouraged to be excessive at a free bar, society of excess, more more more, take take take, didnt take much encouragement tbh, i just thought this is great, banksy sure knows how to lay on a spread, the staff were obviously scripted to encourage us. Maybe he just wanted us to have a good time, which we certainly did, maybe he wanted us pissed so we'd empty our wallets without thought, as you do when theres free drink and art, maybe im just talking shit!
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Post by poledance on Aug 24, 2015 11:00:13 GMT
So glad to see someone get what I was driving at Something else looking back, could be completely wrong, everytime i went for a drink i was asked "do you want to make that a double" "or something like that, being encouraged to be excessive at a free bar, society of excess, more more more, take take take, didnt take much encouragement tbh, i just thought this is great, banksy sure knows how to lay on a spread, the staff were obviously scripted to encourage us. Maybe he just wanted us to have a good time, which we certainly did, maybe he wanted us pissed so we'd empty our wallets without thought, as you do when theres free drink and art, maybe im just talking shit! [b/] Good work Bob I think you're most definitely on to something This is banksys black album
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Post by eschiff on Aug 24, 2015 11:49:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 11:51:09 GMT
][/quote]Could you explain what you mean please? Are you saying driving remote control boats with refugees in it has a meaning I've missed? If so, I'd like to read your opinion, some of what you said seems to have been lost in autocorrect.[/quote][
It's quite obvious really you want to quote page three of the guardian... Which as said is obvious with 3 boats of refugees but the whole event is an interactive, social experience that goes through lots of important issues. It's called Dismaland and the staff are rude etc and yet everyone is happy. Pieces and the issues inter relate so this piece brings attention to other pieces on the same subject. Similarly there is a very important part to this piece that you only see if your lucky/ unlucky if you play it really. Similarly each one who plays thinks and reacts differently as part of their event experience
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Post by ouroboros on Aug 24, 2015 11:55:53 GMT
fucking hell
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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on Aug 24, 2015 11:58:39 GMT
Something else looking back, could be completely wrong, everytime i went for a drink i was asked "do you want to make that a double" "or something like that, being encouraged to be excessive at a free bar, society of excess, more more more, take take take, didnt take much encouragement tbh, i just thought this is great, banksy sure knows how to lay on a spread, the staff were obviously scripted to encourage us. Maybe he just wanted us to have a good time, which we certainly did, maybe he wanted us pissed so we'd empty our wallets without thought, as you do when theres free drink and art, maybe im just talking shit! [b/] Good work Bob I think you're most definitely on to something This is banksys black album the Black Album as in Metallica? or Spinal Tap?
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Post by poledance on Aug 24, 2015 12:15:29 GMT
Could you explain what you mean please? Are you saying driving remote control boats with refugees in it has a meaning I've missed? If so, I'd like to read your opinion, some of what you said seems to have been lost in autocorrect. [/quote][ It's quite obvious really you want to quote page three of the guardian... Which as said is obvious with 3 boats of refugees but the whole event is an interactive, social experience that goes through lots of important issues. It's called Dismaland and the staff are rude etc and yet everyone is happy. Pieces and the issues inter relate so this piece brings attention to other pieces on the same subject. Similarly there is a very important part to this piece that you only see if your lucky/ unlucky if you play it really. Similarly each one who plays thinks and reacts differently as part of their event experience End of on this[/quote][/p]
so what you mean is....you don't want to discuss the individual meaning of a piece?
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Post by poledance on Aug 24, 2015 12:16:45 GMT
[b/] Good work Bob I think you're most definitely on to something This is banksys black album the Black Album as in Metallica? or Spinal Tap? Prince? Beatles? Banksy?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 12:33:41 GMT
Could you explain what you mean please? Are you saying driving remote control boats with refugees in it has a meaning I've missed? If so, I'd like to read your opinion, some of what you said seems to have been lost in autocorrect. [ It's quite obvious really you want to quote page three of the guardian... Which as said is obvious with 3 boats of refugees but the whole event is an interactive, social experience that goes through lots of important issues. It's called Dismaland and the staff are rude etc and yet everyone is happy. Pieces and the issues inter relate so this piece brings attention to other pieces on the same subject. Similarly there is a very important part to this piece that you only see if your lucky/ unlucky if you play it really. Similarly each one who plays thinks and reacts differently as part of their event experience End of on this[/quote][/p]
so what you mean is....you don't want to discuss the individual meaning of a piece?
[/quote] No the base meaning of the piece is obvious......just saying that in a lot of ways your missing the value of the piece when you miss out on its interaction and it gets deeper if you play it. Won't say what it is as may ruin it for others. As say finished on this
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Post by poledance on Aug 24, 2015 12:38:24 GMT
so is there anything you do want to discuss?
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