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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2015 16:30:28 GMT
Speaking of religion, cereal, and sexual urges...read up on Kellogg. Kellogg - weirdo Henry Ford - anti-semite Lindburg - anti-semite Sean Penn - beat woman Jimmy Page - kidnapped a young girl Eric Clapton - racist who can we look up to? no wonder we're all obsessed with these mysterious artists working in the shadows Mike Watt. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2015 16:35:03 GMT
fed - its just like wot you have in the rougher parts of Brooklyn, where encroachment is pushing people out and mom and pop corners shops are being replaced by shops that pay more rental and that sell niche & often superflous products that appeal to those who like the conspicuous consumption aspect of the newly arrived outlets . Except here we have Class War who like to get drunk and make headlines with OTT happenings It has nothing to do with the cereal café really. They were just there at the time. Estate agents are usually the prime target. Erg that's not strictly true though is it. They are on Brick lane which is just full of restaurants some art galleries and full of tourists at the weekend. So they are in. Business area as opposed to taking over the only local corner shop. Similarly they are a small entrepreneur outfit when already in the area are corporates and corporate book makers etc etc.! It's more like in New York the meat packing district which is becoming trendier. So now art galleries are moving that way. No one used to go to this area realty say ten years ago now it is a cool area to visit so just as the curry houses are benefitting there are now an abundance of arty placed to eat and drink. As well as expensive street food etc etc etc. spits becoming a place where LSE Dr's are being asked for more rents so are creating havoc so they do not have to pay. That's basically what this is about. Been an argument on here about poor kids in the area getting breakfast. These lot if they cared about kids in the east end they would be at dept of education trying to ensure free school meals.. Then about oligarks etc now it's about the ripper museum. Actually it's about these LSE lot paying more rent Ireckon |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2015 16:52:21 GMT
Once an area has 'gentrified' I'm more interested where the new place will be rather than dwelling on what was. This is surely one of the best things about the art scene that it doesn't have to be tied to a favourite street or borough. But it re-emerges in new and exciting ways.
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Post by Dr. Plip on Sept 29, 2015 17:49:21 GMT
sadly, that sounds like every major American city, though it seems it hasn't hit the smaller cities that were historically manufacturing cities as much (think Buffalo, Albany Pittsburgh), for the most part. those cities are just empty - victim of white flight that never really reversed itself... might be changing a bit now though as prices to live in smaller cities are more affordable and appealing than the 'burbs to first time home buyers (side note - my aunt lived 'round the corner from CBGB's in the late 60's early 70's... paid something like $60 a month in rent for years, then got sued by her landlord in the late 80's and evicted. the apartment is now in the thousands of dollars a month, I believe. and CBGB's is now a John Varvatos shop. makes me sick to my stomach. have many fond memories of playing that dark, dank club)... living costs in many major cities is unreal a large question is - would you rather have the "niche" shops that cater to upper middle class whites mostly, or big box stores catering to the lower class? it's a question that won't be answered anytime soon, especially with the income gap that continues to exist the middle, blue collar class is dwindling in numbers another side note - unaffordable city living has a direct correlation to diminished art communities... if artists can't afford to live, or live without 2-3 jobs, they aren't staying in the cities and don't have the time or community to foster a creative environment.. that's why you'll see music scenes in smaller cities, but not the larger ones Don't panic, you don't have to listen to all of it. It should autoplay at the relevant point. But the lectures are well worth listening to. |
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Post by notmattl on Sept 29, 2015 18:35:17 GMT
Once an area has 'gentrified' I'm more interested where the new place will be rather than dwelling on what was. This is surely one of the best things about the art scene that it doesn't have to be tied to a favourite street or borough. But it re-emerges in new and exciting ways. You are absolutey right...and that is exactly one of the main drivers gentrification. Artists will attract designers, and their trustafarian clients will come have a look for thrills, and then people who work for Vice will need to write about it, and their friends in advertising will come along next time, and the architects will want to redo the pub, and designers of androgynous clothing will sow in flats,, and so it begins again, and the artists ultimately move out when the Cereal bar opens... We welcome this because it drives renewal in art, and we lot like taking pictures of stuff painted on walls, but the adverse efdects are real. |
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Post by ouroboros on Sept 29, 2015 18:51:03 GMT
fed - its just like wot you have in the rougher parts of Brooklyn, where encroachment is pushing people out and mom and pop corners shops are being replaced by shops that pay more rental and that sell niche & often superflous products that appeal to those who like the conspicuous consumption aspect of the newly arrived outlets . Except here we have Class War who like to get drunk and make headlines with OTT happenings It has nothing to do with the cereal café really. They were just there at the time. Estate agents are usually the prime target. Erg that's not strictly true though is it. They are on Brick lane which is just full of restaurants some art galleries and full of tourists at the weekend. So they are in. Business area as opposed to taking over the only local corner shop. Similarly they are a small entrepreneur outfit when already in the area are corporates and corporate book makers etc etc.! It's more like in New York the meat packing district which is becoming trendier. So now art galleries are moving that way. No one used to go to this area realty say ten years ago now it is a cool area to visit so just as the curry houses are benefitting there are now an abundance of arty placed to eat and drink. As well as expensive street food etc etc etc. spits becoming a place where LSE Dr's are being asked for more rents so are creating havoc so they do not have to pay. That's basically what this is about. Been an argument on here about poor kids in the area getting breakfast. These lot if they cared about kids in the east end they would be at dept of education trying to ensure free school meals.. Then about oligarks etc now it's about the ripper museum. Actually it's about these LSE lot paying more rent Ireckon "No one used to go to this area realty say ten years ago..." amongst that pile of faeces, this is a nugget to be proud of JH |
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Post by ouroboros on Sept 29, 2015 18:55:59 GMT
Once an area has 'gentrified' I'm more interested where the new place will be rather than dwelling on what was. This is surely one of the best things about the art scene that it doesn't have to be tied to a favourite street or borough. But it re-emerges in new and exciting ways. You are absolutey right...and that is exactly one of the main drivers gentrification. Artists will attract designers, and their trustafarian clients will come have a look for thrills, and then people who work for Vice will need to write about it, and their friends in advertising will come along next time, and the architects will want to redo the pub, and designers of androgynous clothing will sow in flats,, and so it begins again, and the artists ultimately move out when the Cereal bar opens... We welcome this because it drives renewal in art, and we lot like taking pictures of stuff painted on walls, but the adverse efdects are real. Its lucky that masses have the bourgeoise shock troops to rely upon the sort out their allocation of culture. |
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Post by ouroboros on Sept 29, 2015 18:59:05 GMT
i am beginning to sound like a situationist paldork. time to make good my escape from this thread
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Post by notmattl on Sept 29, 2015 19:03:57 GMT
i am beginning to sound like a situationist paldork. time to make good my escape from this thread #1 rule of making a good escape... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2015 19:12:41 GMT
Erg that's not strictly true though is it. They are on Brick lane which is just full of restaurants some art galleries and full of tourists at the weekend. So they are in. Business area as opposed to taking over the only local corner shop. Similarly they are a small entrepreneur outfit when already in the area are corporates and corporate book makers etc etc.! It's more like in New York the meat packing district which is becoming trendier. So now art galleries are moving that way. No one used to go to this area realty say ten years ago now it is a cool area to visit so just as the curry houses are benefitting there are now an abundance of arty placed to eat and drink. As well as expensive street food etc etc etc. spits becoming a place where LSE Dr's are being asked for more rents so are creating havoc so they do not have to pay. That's basically what this is about. Been an argument on here about poor kids in the area getting breakfast. These lot if they cared about kids in the east end they would be at dept of education trying to ensure free school meals.. Then about oligarks etc now it's about the ripper museum. Actually it's about these LSE lot paying more rent Ireckon "No one used to go to this area realty say ten years ago..." amongst that pile of faeces, this is a nugget to be proud of JH I meant non residents in general. Eg it has become popular and trendier in recent years. Street art tours etc. not that people who lived in the area. Point being it has become popular and trendier in recent times so more outsiders go there at the weekends etc. Which you probably new!!!! 10 years ago there was not the same desire to move there.buying property etc Other wise your radical gentrified mates are a bit late aren't they??? |
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Post by mojo on Sept 29, 2015 23:34:49 GMT
Your Dreams Are My Nightmares ...... says it all really!  Haven't had time to reply to this thread yet, I rent a home in Hackney and the onslaught of aggressive estate agents that knock on my door all day asking me if I'm the owner and how much rent I pay and telling me it's now worth 'loads sa money' cause Hackney is "like the most desirable place to live in London right now Ya" is pissing me off and totally transparent, we moan about flippers and hyping with a few screen printed editions, these people are doing it with peoples lives. Within the last 48 hours one person was shot dead 5 minutes walk away and another person was stabbed on the street right outside last night,.... they survived. These are not isolated cases, happens regularly round here. I wonder if they're giving perspective buyers that information! I've lived in this area for 30+ years and just because a group of greedy estate agents want to effectively bully people out of their homes so they can make a quick buck is disgraceful. Hackney will fight back simply because it is made up of a community of real people and families that actually live here and aren't interested in stupid postcode one upmenship. There are a lot of social housing estates in the area so lots of low income workers that actually work hard in all the jobs the wealthy, the landlords and developers wouldn't do. There's plenty of room in London for rich and poor to live side by side without having to put a price on everyone's head. As for cerealgate, I don't know? Maybe they got picked out cause the idea is so pathetic. They couldn't have wished for better publicity..... at one point I started thinking this is genius, so this is how to grab headlines and get talked about all over the world rent a mob to throw some pink paint on your window and jeer at your customers with lit pitchforks then just put it down to social injustice. Then more people buy overpriced bowls of sugery shit and the real question of social cleansing and gentrification gets on news .....result! |
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Post by t3c on Sept 30, 2015 7:26:25 GMT
Once an area has 'gentrified' I'm more interested where the new place will be rather than dwelling on what was. This is surely one of the best things about the art scene that it doesn't have to be tied to a favourite street or borough. But it re-emerges in new and exciting ways. Agreed. As previously mentioned I was a Hackney dweller for years and was exposed to so much art on the streets around the area. It's probably one of the main reasons i got so into it. Fast forward to 2013 and we moved further East towards E17 area and lo & behold those artists now priced out of studio spaces in Hackney Wick are now setting up shop around here & in-particular Wood Street. Harrington, Phlegm, Static, Fanakapan and many others have all painted here recently and the response within a community very different to that of E8/E9 has be overwhelmingly positive. It's a joy to see. I have no affiliation (but have donated) but there is a project with a mere 2 weeks to run and under a grand to hit their 38K target to turn a disused public building into a new creative space designed to serve the community and educate. For me it can't come soon enough and i imagine i will spend many a hour there with my daughter in the future. www.spacehive.com/woodstreetstudios |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 20:21:02 GMT
One of the organizers Dr Lusa McKenzie was on Newsnight on Wed. Well worth watching as she is just an idiot and gets taken apart. However just after that there is a guy from a road rage thing and the do a great little vid of it well worth a watch.
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Post by IggyWiggy on Mar 9, 2016 12:23:45 GMT
"Fake hipster graffiti" a "misguided attempt by suits to identify with ‘edgy’ Brixton"?A "fresh" makeover of a south London branch of McDonald's has caused outrage for using fake graffiti in an area known for its street art. Commenters have called the redesign of McDonald's in Brixton, complete with faux-vandalised walls and lampshades, "fake hipster graffiti" and declared "Brixton is over". Food critic Jay Rayner labelled it "truly offensive" - though others though the complaints were "first world problems".   The renovation uses graffiti-covered lampshades and a large blue wall which has been "tagged", in what McDonald's calls an "exciting and fresh" revamp. The design in Brixton, which is also known for its rapid gentrification that has caused a backlash from people who feel they're being forced out, has been called a misguided attempt to look "edgy" and an "epic fail". Rayner later re-evaluated his statement, saying that he felt the McDonald's was "crass" and "sad" rather than offensive, and pointed out that his criticism was not about the use of graffiti, but the specific use of 'tagging', the signatures put on graffiti which he said are connected to "claiming territory". Lee Dema, who runs the St Matthew’s Project, a youth network for young people in Brixton, told The Independent: “This is just another misguided attempt by suits to identify with ‘edgy’ Brixton. "I just thought they thought 'Brixton, yeah, what's Brixton like? Graffiti, yeah we'll do that'." Brixton was hit by protests in April 2015 over the gentrification in the area, where residents are being forced out of shops and homes due to rising rents and house prices in the increasingly fashionable location. A branch of the estate agents Foxtons had its windows smashed in, although the group behind the protest publicly distanced itself from the vandalism. Commenters online said the new look for the food outlet was "trying too hard guys", while one asked "Brixton, is Ronald about to drop a grime album as well?" Student publication The Tab said that while the observations about gentrification were "fair", there was "something else wrong with the restaurant’s design. It’s just really hideous". McDonald's has been rolling out the graffiti-themed interior design to its restaurants across the country. The fast food chain said in a statement: “The exciting and fresh designs used in Brixton are in use across the UK and in other markets and have received a great reception. "With self-order kiosks and free-to-use tablets, the refreshed restaurant has digital innovation at its heart and provides customers with more choice in how they order and pay. "We look forward to hearing what local residents think of their new McDonald’s.” www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2016/03/06/brixton-mcdonalds-graffiti-makeover_n_9393698.html
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2016 13:54:04 GMT
Suppose on Gentrification as bad as Mc Donald's is the fact that you lifted the article from the Huffington Post filled with Tweet comments probably says more!!!
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Post by Dr. Plip on Mar 9, 2016 15:36:29 GMT
"Fake hipster graffiti" a "misguided attempt by suits to identify with ‘edgy’ Brixton"?A "fresh" makeover of a south London branch of McDonald's has caused outrage for using fake graffiti in an area known for its street art. Commenters have called the redesign of McDonald's in Brixton, complete with faux-vandalised walls and lampshades, "fake hipster graffiti" and declared "Brixton is over". Food critic Jay Rayner labelled it "truly offensive" - though others though the complaints were "first world problems". The renovation uses graffiti-covered lampshades and a large blue wall which has been "tagged", in what McDonald's calls an "exciting and fresh" revamp. The design in Brixton, which is also known for its rapid gentrification that has caused a backlash from people who feel they're being forced out, has been called a misguided attempt to look "edgy" and an "epic fail". Rayner later re-evaluated his statement, saying that he felt the McDonald's was "crass" and "sad" rather than offensive, and pointed out that his criticism was not about the use of graffiti, but the specific use of 'tagging', the signatures put on graffiti which he said are connected to "claiming territory". Lee Dema, who runs the St Matthew’s Project, a youth network for young people in Brixton, told The Independent: “This is just another misguided attempt by suits to identify with ‘edgy’ Brixton. "I just thought they thought 'Brixton, yeah, what's Brixton like? Graffiti, yeah we'll do that'." Brixton was hit by protests in April 2015 over the gentrification in the area, where residents are being forced out of shops and homes due to rising rents and house prices in the increasingly fashionable location. A branch of the estate agents Foxtons had its windows smashed in, although the group behind the protest publicly distanced itself from the vandalism. Commenters online said the new look for the food outlet was "trying too hard guys", while one asked "Brixton, is Ronald about to drop a grime album as well?" Student publication The Tab said that while the observations about gentrification were "fair", there was "something else wrong with the restaurant’s design. It’s just really hideous". McDonald's has been rolling out the graffiti-themed interior design to its restaurants across the country. The fast food chain said in a statement: “The exciting and fresh designs used in Brixton are in use across the UK and in other markets and have received a great reception. "With self-order kiosks and free-to-use tablets, the refreshed restaurant has digital innovation at its heart and provides customers with more choice in how they order and pay. "We look forward to hearing what local residents think of their new McDonald’s.” www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2016/03/06/brixton-mcdonalds-graffiti-makeover_n_9393698.html It's a bit public toilety. |
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Post by happymeal on Mar 9, 2016 15:54:14 GMT
"Fake hipster graffiti" a "misguided attempt by suits to identify with ‘edgy’ Brixton"?A "fresh" makeover of a south London branch of McDonald's has caused outrage for using fake graffiti in an area known for its street art. Commenters have called the redesign of McDonald's in Brixton, complete with faux-vandalised walls and lampshades, "fake hipster graffiti" and declared "Brixton is over". Food critic Jay Rayner labelled it "truly offensive" - though others though the complaints were "first world problems". The renovation uses graffiti-covered lampshades and a large blue wall which has been "tagged", in what McDonald's calls an "exciting and fresh" revamp. The design in Brixton, which is also known for its rapid gentrification that has caused a backlash from people who feel they're being forced out, has been called a misguided attempt to look "edgy" and an "epic fail". Rayner later re-evaluated his statement, saying that he felt the McDonald's was "crass" and "sad" rather than offensive, and pointed out that his criticism was not about the use of graffiti, but the specific use of 'tagging', the signatures put on graffiti which he said are connected to "claiming territory". Lee Dema, who runs the St Matthew’s Project, a youth network for young people in Brixton, told The Independent: “This is just another misguided attempt by suits to identify with ‘edgy’ Brixton. "I just thought they thought 'Brixton, yeah, what's Brixton like? Graffiti, yeah we'll do that'." Brixton was hit by protests in April 2015 over the gentrification in the area, where residents are being forced out of shops and homes due to rising rents and house prices in the increasingly fashionable location. A branch of the estate agents Foxtons had its windows smashed in, although the group behind the protest publicly distanced itself from the vandalism. Commenters online said the new look for the food outlet was "trying too hard guys", while one asked "Brixton, is Ronald about to drop a grime album as well?" Student publication The Tab said that while the observations about gentrification were "fair", there was "something else wrong with the restaurant’s design. It’s just really hideous". McDonald's has been rolling out the graffiti-themed interior design to its restaurants across the country. The fast food chain said in a statement: “The exciting and fresh designs used in Brixton are in use across the UK and in other markets and have received a great reception. "With self-order kiosks and free-to-use tablets, the refreshed restaurant has digital innovation at its heart and provides customers with more choice in how they order and pay. "We look forward to hearing what local residents think of their new McDonald’s.” www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2016/03/06/brixton-mcdonalds-graffiti-makeover_n_9393698.html It's a bit public toilety. All McDonald'ses are good for. |
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Post by IggyWiggy on Mar 9, 2016 18:04:46 GMT
Suppose on Gentrification as bad as Mc Donald's is the fact that you lifted the article from the Huffington Post filled with Tweet comments probably says more!!! Come again? |
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Post by IggyWiggy on Mar 9, 2016 18:18:42 GMT
It's a bit public toilety. All McDonald'ses are good for.  |
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Post by ninthsonv2 on Mar 9, 2016 18:32:51 GMT
And that is exactly what she said...  Carry on... |
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Post by IggyWiggy on Mar 9, 2016 18:47:52 GMT
And that is exactly what she said... Carry on...  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2016 11:01:14 GMT
Suppose on Gentrification as bad as Mc Donald's is the fact that you lifted the article from the Huffington Post filled with Tweet comments probably says more!!! Come again? Well it's not exactly a working class publication is it and it quotes a big food critic......for. McDonald's which regardless of design serves burgers to ordinary people not a posh food critic lik Jay Raynor. He is possibly your version of gentrification personified a white university educated public school boy from Harrow who is now a posh food critic... Commenting on McDonald's in Brixton for an online American owned journal doing an article on gentrification of .....so that for me is worse than some idiot at mcDonalds doing some daft interior design. |
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Post by Still Hate Thatcher on Mar 10, 2016 20:06:39 GMT
Well it's not exactly a working class publication is it and it quotes a big food critic......for. McDonald's which regardless of design serves burgers to ordinary people not a posh food critic lik Jay Raynor. He is possibly your version of gentrification personified a white university educated public school boy from Harrow who is now a posh food critic... Commenting on McDonald's in Brixton for an online American owned journal doing an article on gentrification of .....so that for me is worse than some idiot at mcDonalds doing some daft interior design. Not "a working class publication"? I'm genuinely curious and not even fucking with you when I ask - what exactly is a working class publication? Can you name three for me? Ta. |
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Post by IggyWiggy on Mar 10, 2016 20:17:35 GMT
Well it's not exactly a working class publication is it and it quotes a big food critic......for. McDonald's which regardless of design serves burgers to ordinary people not a posh food critic lik Jay Raynor. He is possibly your version of gentrification personified a white university educated public school boy from Harrow who is now a posh food critic... Commenting on McDonald's in Brixton for an online American owned journal doing an article on gentrification of .....so that for me is worse than some idiot at mcDonalds doing some daft interior design. Would somebody from a privilleged background, who continues to sustain that affluent lifestyle, be considered as 'gentrification personified'? I'd imagine Biffa Bacon transforming into Lord Snooty would. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2016 4:34:50 GMT
Well it's not exactly a working class publication is it and it quotes a big food critic......for. McDonald's which regardless of design serves burgers to ordinary people not a posh food critic lik Jay Raynor. He is possibly your version of gentrification personified a white university educated public school boy from Harrow who is now a posh food critic... Commenting on McDonald's in Brixton for an online American owned journal doing an article on gentrification of .....so that for me is worse than some idiot at mcDonalds doing some daft interior design. Would somebody from a privilleged background, who continues to sustain that affluent lifestyle, be considered as 'gentrification personified'? I'd imagine Biffa Bacon transforming into Lord Snooty would. Well he is pretty close to Lord Snootyand I would say not a prime example of the traditional Brixton resident. |
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