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Post by jeezuzjonessnr on Mar 23, 2016 22:02:16 GMT
I doubt trump would have left 5000 terrorists back into US like has happened in Europe ready to cause chaos!! At least they let in a nice round number, sits easier with my OCD. It was suppose to be 5039 but the chief of ISIS has OCD bad.. He rounded it up.. FFS have a word.. |
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Post by Still Hate Thatcher on Mar 23, 2016 22:02:17 GMT
Was going to ask where you got this from (with a sense of dread and trepidation). Googled the sentence and see it comes from the Daily Mail 'article' from 19 February 2016. That explains it. I read it yesterday www.news.com.au/world/brussels-the-worlds-terror-capital/news-story/b1e5af6dae851bb0c02e4e14087abf5fThing is Europe has been soft in leaving these back Into the country. Fuck human rights if they want to be jihads let them stay in the Middle East. Same with these clerics brainwashing kids through the UK and Europe eg ..send them back also. Things are going to get a lot worse. Fuck human rights! Yeah!!! Fuck human Rights! Yeah! Fuck all humans any rights! Yaaaa! Fuck humans! Right? Yeah ! Fuck you, you inhuman cunt. Yeah! Fuck your rights, yeah! Fuck any rights, yeah! My stick around is bigger, beat beat beat! Hit hit hit! Yeah! No? Why not? You fucking animal... |
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Post by jeezuzjonessnr on Mar 23, 2016 22:06:58 GMT
Just read this..Front page of the Australian today 'EUROPES PERFECT STORM'
Prime minister... 'European governments are confronted by a perfect storm of failed or neglected integration, foreign fighters returning from Iraq and Syria, porous borders, and intelligence an security apparatus struggling to keep pace with the scope and breadth of the threat'
In other words 'what a fucking mess'..
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Post by poledance on Mar 23, 2016 22:15:15 GMT
Just read this..Front page of the Australian today 'EUROPES PERFECT STORM' Prime minister... 'European governments are confronted by a perfect storm of failed or neglected integration, foreign fighters returning from Iraq and Syria, porous borders, and intelligence an security apparatus struggling to keep pace with the scope and breadth of the threat' In other words 'what a fucking mess'.. Australia's opinion given their record on refugees is worth fuck all |
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Post by sean on Mar 23, 2016 22:15:23 GMT
Just read this..Front page of the Australian today 'EUROPES PERFECT STORM' Prime minister... 'European governments are confronted by a perfect storm of failed or neglected integration, foreign fighters returning from Iraq and Syria, porous borders, and intelligence an security apparatus struggling to keep pace with the scope and breadth of the threat' In other words 'what a fucking mess'.. Ah, the intelligence and knowledge of the Australian media. Providing a reason for their own agenda? That's generally how it works. Why let the facts get in the way of a belief. |
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Post by jeezuzjonessnr on Mar 23, 2016 22:15:46 GMT
Fuck human rights! Yeah!!! Fuck human Rights! Yeah! Fuck all humans any rights! Yaaaa! Fuck humans! Right? Yeah ! Fuck you, you inhuman cunt. Yeah! Fuck your rights, yeah! Fuck any rights, yeah! My stick around is bigger, beat beat beat! Hit hit hit! Yeah! No? Why not? You fucking animal... Mate please seriously enlighten us to what you would do with 4999 returning trained killers? Probably get them to meet once a week with a priest down the church hall drink lemonade and fairy cakes? These guys don't give a fuck. This isn't save the fucking forest, stop a by pass being built.. You need to get a grip. |
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Post by norbok on Mar 23, 2016 22:25:55 GMT
Just read this..Front page of the Australian today 'EUROPES PERFECT STORM' Prime minister... 'European governments are confronted by a perfect storm of failed or neglected integration, foreign fighters returning from Iraq and Syria, porous borders, and intelligence an security apparatus struggling to keep pace with the scope and breadth of the threat' In other words 'what a fucking mess'.. not everywhere in Europe is a fucking mess ...   |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2016 22:37:05 GMT
Fuck human rights! Yeah!!! Fuck human Rights! Yeah! Fuck all humans any rights! Yaaaa! Fuck humans! Right? Yeah ! Fuck you, you inhuman cunt. Yeah! Fuck your rights, yeah! Fuck any rights, yeah! My stick around is bigger, beat beat beat! Hit hit hit! Yeah! No? Why not? You fucking animal... Just another pathetic response. Just boring..,,,, page after page of the same shit from SHThatcher. |
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Post by poledance on Mar 23, 2016 22:46:58 GMT
Why is anything being discussed from the Murdoch empire with a straight face? Surely we all know there agenda is to keep the dumb white masses fearful of anything different while ensuring those with money gain more power and strength?
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Post by poledance on Mar 23, 2016 22:51:22 GMT
Also I love how Australians don't seem to have any grasp of geography, you see, Australia is a big right wing dumb island who have persecuted the natives and have detention camps off shore for. Women and children to get abused in.
And Europe well it ain't a fucking island under one stupid government.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2016 23:12:51 GMT
Also I love how Australians don't seem to have any grasp of geography, you see, Australia is a big right wing dumb island who have persecuted the natives and have detention camps off shore for. Women and children to get abused in. And Europe well it ain't a fucking island under one stupid government. Well you say that. But the majority of the countries of Europe do not seem to want the refugees in their country hence the make ship camps and move them to the next soon as possible. They may not be offshore and they may not be called detention camps but I am not so sure there are two many welcome centers across Europe at the moment. With the exception of Merkel and Germany although it now has a massive growth in the right wing parties because people who would not normally vote right wing see that as the only one. In France growth in the right wing. UKIP in the UK etc etc. all based on immigration. Biggest issue in the UK leaving Europe is immigration why is it having the vote to stop Tories moving to UKIP in the last election. The 5000 quote from the Europol guy just really exasperates the situation. It is an issue that is not going to just go away regardless of whether the number is correct or higher or lower . |
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Post by poledance on Mar 23, 2016 23:16:40 GMT
Also I love how Australians don't seem to have any grasp of geography, you see, Australia is a big right wing dumb island who have persecuted the natives and have detention camps off shore for. Women and children to get abused in. And Europe well it ain't a fucking island under one stupid government. Well you say that. But the majority of the countries of Europe do not seem to want the refugees in their country hence the make ship camps and move them to the next soon as possible. They may not be offshore and they may not be called detention camps but I am not so sure there are two many welcome centers across Europe at the moment. With the exception of Merkel and Germany although it now has a massive growth in the right wing parties because people who would not normally vote right wing see that as the only one. In France growth in the right wing. UKIP in the UK etc etc. all based on immigration. Biggest issue in the UK leaving Europe is immigration why is it having the vote to stop Tories moving to UKIP in the last election. My point was Australia doesn't get to have an opinion worth listening too. At least Europe has understood to a degree refugees need to be helped not simply turned away. There are no easy answers but at the end of the day everyone should be treated fairly. |
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Post by jeezuzjonessnr on Mar 23, 2016 23:17:46 GMT
Also I love how Australians don't seem to have any grasp of geography, you see, Australia is a big right wing dumb island who have persecuted the natives and have detention camps off shore for. Women and children to get abused in. And Europe well it ain't a fucking island under one stupid government. I'm not Australian. I am from the UK have British and Aussie passport, currently spending more time living in Australia but looking in the future to split it and have a summer in each.. But call me what you like, I believe the government here has their policies correct and now Germany and the like will back track on refugees and borders will eventually be closed. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2016 23:28:10 GMT
Well you say that. But the majority of the countries of Europe do not seem to want the refugees in their country hence the make ship camps and move them to the next soon as possible. They may not be offshore and they may not be called detention camps but I am not so sure there are two many welcome centers across Europe at the moment. With the exception of Merkel and Germany although it now has a massive growth in the right wing parties because people who would not normally vote right wing see that as the only one. In France growth in the right wing. UKIP in the UK etc etc. all based on immigration. Biggest issue in the UK leaving Europe is immigration why is it having the vote to stop Tories moving to UKIP in the last election. My point was Australia doesn't get to have an opinion worth listening too. At least Europe has understood to a degree refugees need to be helped not simply turned away. There are no easy answers but at the end of the day everyone should be treated fairly. But their not being helped in Europe actually most in Europe want a wall. You see the fences going up. Deal with Turkey to take them back That's the governments the people of Europe want it even less. Which is why no one wants them settling in their country. As say if their is a Britexit it will be predominantly down to immigration regardless of whether it is a yes or a no to exit it highlights what an issue it is. Britain does not want or wish to encourage the refugees hence one could say with Calsis and Dunkirk our detention camp is offshore as well. What is correct about Australia is regardless of whether you agree with or against its system. It actually has a system. Where as most countries in Europe do not. The UK hardly deports failed asylum seekers and has a years long process of people in limbo etc. So Europe is s mess which is pretty obvious on the daily news. |
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Post by ouroboros on Mar 23, 2016 23:38:35 GMT
France has always had a right wing element- remember that le Pen snr was a little bit naughty in Algeria back in the day & his party was initially populated by Algeria vets and piednoirs. Long history- heres a bit of info that fails to make the history books for many Paris Massacres in 1961total numbers estimated as high as 250 I think focusing on the randoms arrival as a root cause of the re-emergence of right wingery is disingeneous. Its a current factor granted, but this trend goes hand in hand with macro issues , most of which can be easily tracked back to the crash of a decade or so ago on a fairly facile level. Point is - and I can veer off on historical meandering far too easily- There is a significant level of j'accuse finger poiting going on in europe & as we have/ have not learned, its easy to blame our ills on an identifiable & usually quiety compliant subset of society -A convenient strawman to divert attention from the real problems. / old anarcho-syndicalist viewpoint obvs |
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Post by poledance on Mar 23, 2016 23:50:01 GMT
France has always had a right wing element- remember that le Pen snr was a little bit naughty in Algeria back in the day & his party was initially populated by Algeria vets and piednoirs. Long history- heres a bit of info that fails to make the history books for many Paris Massacres in 1961total numbers estimated as high as 250 I think focusing on the randoms arrival as a root cause of the re-emergence of right wingery is disingeneous. Its a current factor granted, but this trend goes hand in hand with macro issues , most of which can be easily tracked back to the crash of a decade or so ago on a fairly facile level. Point is - and I can veer off on historical meandering far too easily- There is a significant level of j'accuse finger poiting going on in europe & as we have/ have not learned, its easy to blame our ills on an identifiable & usually quiety compliant subset of society -A convenient strawman to divert attention from the real problems. / old anarcho-syndicalist viewpoint obvs Very good post it's much simpler to blame those weaker than you and those in power have always wanted it that way, murdochs empire have a very good living out of this model .... Since the banker ms screwed us all, the media has been blaming everyone but the banks and so it was |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2016 23:56:05 GMT
France has always had a right wing element- remember that le Pen snr was a little bit naughty in Algeria back in the day & his party was initially populated by Algeria vets and piednoirs. Long history- heres a bit of info that fails to make the history books for many Paris Massacres in 1961total numbers estimated as high as 250 I think focusing on the randoms arrival as a root cause of the re-emergence of right wingery is disingeneous. Its a current factor granted, but this trend goes hand in hand with macro issues , most of which can be easily tracked back to the crash of a decade or so ago on a fairly facile level. Point is - and I can veer off on historical meandering far too easily- There is a significant level of j'accuse finger poiting going on in europe & as we have/ have not learned, its easy to blame our ills on an identifiable & usually quiety compliant subset of society -A convenient strawman to divert attention from the real problems. / old anarcho-syndicalist viewpoint obvs I agree with your point that the right always existed in pretty much all the countries however in Germany, France and the U.K. In recent years and now exasperated by te amount of Reffugees and numbers of economic migrants the right has moved from the extreme to an almost acceptable place in politics. Since old man le pen gone she is now reaching a large percentage of the French vote, local elections in Germany just saw the right on the rise.UKIP got 4 mill or whatever votes in the UK. Which is not like the extreme National Front type numbers. So they are on the rise and with the refugees, migrants and the jihadi type either they will continue to grow or the other parties will have to implement some of their views to stop voters departing to them. Of course they play on people's fears and by pointing fingers etc but that's how parties get votes regardless of the issues. Tories say labour bad for economy and taxes will go up and are weak on imigration. Labour say Tories reduce tax for the rich, bad for workers etc etc do diff issues but same concept.!the problem is the bad management by the traditional parties has allowed and encouraged the process and allowed the softer new right wing in and there lies the danger. Every political Program includes UKIP. Same in Germany and France |
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Post by ouroboros on Mar 24, 2016 0:23:04 GMT
There is an element of self perpetuation going on - there must be a correlation / maybe causation, between arsey right wingers and a reduction in the degree of integration of arrivals. I did read an interesting piece a while ago about the influence of the NF activities ( and the trade unions let us not forget) of the '70 in the east end of London & the de facto intergrative lockdown that occured in the bangla areas as likely result.It is still very much evident today, a generation or two on.
re jihadis- again, this is something we have experiened at first hand - the brits going to Spain in '36 ( described as " scum of the earth" by HRH the Queen mother), Disaffected Jewish squaddies naking their way to Palestine & even the irish republicans getting the benefit of returnees to ramp up their campaign after 2W2.Even 50 years ealier, the east end was a hive of insurrectionist activity - and most importantly, press activity- with the arrival of thousands of eastern european anarchists, intent on killing your babies
My point ? no fuckin idea.
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Post by poledance on Mar 24, 2016 0:46:05 GMT
Basically one doesn't want the poor getting their shit together and realising who their common enemy is
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2016 1:28:05 GMT
ouroboros think you are spot on and right there. Part of my point is that they are now part of main strength politics so definitely affect views etc. eg something like Question time always has a UKIP panelist so discusses those issues weekly. Where as say 5 years ago rarely even discussed imigration of any shape or form. Definitely affects opinion and disadisfaction. But for me it was the imigration mismanagement of the process by labour and Conserv that brought/allowed them to the table. Australia for example is the opposite it has and kind of welcomes Asian imigration on an annual ongoing process however anyone either with incorrect paper work or boat type people without just do not get in.
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Post by Still Hate Thatcher on Mar 24, 2016 13:49:26 GMT
Fuck human rights! Yeah!!! Fuck human Rights! Yeah! Fuck all humans any rights! Yaaaa! Fuck humans! Right? Yeah ! Fuck you, you inhuman cunt. Yeah! Fuck your rights, yeah! Fuck any rights, yeah! My stick around is bigger, beat beat beat! Hit hit hit! Yeah! No? Why not? You fucking animal... Just another pathetic response. Just boring..,,,, page after page of the same shit from SHThatcher. OMG - I don't entertain racists and stupid people. I'll live with that... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2016 15:48:57 GMT
Just another pathetic response. Just boring..,,,, page after page of the same shit from SHThatcher. OMG - I don't entertain racists and stupid people. I'll live with that... He is not and did not make a racist comment. Think it is you who is the stupid one. Just cause you shout it does not make it a fact. You really have a sad life when shouting swearing and calling names is the highlight of your life. its quite pathetic |
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Post by norbok on Mar 25, 2016 16:15:32 GMT
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Post by Still Hate Thatcher on Mar 25, 2016 18:26:51 GMT
You have me at a disadvantage, I do not speak German. Would you expand your point, please? |
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