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Post by bejwee77 on Apr 18, 2015 19:15:06 GMT
I'm pretty recent to the urban art world, and in no time have covered my walls and have a small stack tucked away in the portfolio. But I keep taking opportunities to buy what I want since those chances may be far and few between.
Just curious what everyone else does when you get to this point.
I'm guessing you also have limited wall space (even if unlimited funds). Framing is expensive and makes storage or selling far less practical, but at least keeps the buzz going. And it seems strange to buy such moving works just to store them out of sight.
What's everyone else do to support the habit? Are you flipping for something new on the wall every so often? Stockpiling in hopes for more walls at your next place?
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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on Apr 18, 2015 19:23:38 GMT
I'm pretty recent to the urban art world, and in no time have covered my walls and have a small stack tucked away in the portfolio. But I keep taking opportunities to buy what I want since those chances may be far and few between. Just curious what everyone else does when you get to this point. I'm guessing you also have limited wall space (even if unlimited funds). Framing is expensive and makes storage or selling far less practical, but at least keeps the buzz going. And it seems strange to buy such moving works just to store them out of sight. What's everyone else do to support the habit? Are you flipping for something new on the wall every so often? Stockpiling in hopes for more walls at your next place? I've gotten to the point where every inch of my walls are covered. The plan now is to be extremely picky about what prints to pick up. At this point I'd rather save money towards originals pieces... quality over quantity |
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Post by alittle on Apr 18, 2015 19:25:09 GMT
I try to keep the vast majority of my collection framed (90%+), only storing works a few works that I actually intend to frame in the short-term (1 year) horizon.
As my walls are full of art, and I'm not particularly keen on storing art, usually the decision to purchase a new work is accompanied by a review the current collection and making a decision to cull the herd. I find as time has gone on, I have ended up with less art, but the cost per piece is significantly higher as I try to focus more on purchasing original works rather than a slew of prints.
As for funding the adventure, there was a time when flipping was quite profitable, but that ship has sailed for the most part. Just so much garbage coming out, and so many people looking to make a fast buck that there isn't much money to be made. New purchases are funded by my salary or the sale of existing pieces in my collection.
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Post by adman on Apr 18, 2015 19:32:49 GMT
I'm pretty recent to the urban art world, and in no time have covered my walls and have a small stack tucked away in the portfolio. But I keep taking opportunities to buy what I want since those chances may be far and few between. Just curious what everyone else does when you get to this point. I'm guessing you also have limited wall space (even if unlimited funds). Framing is expensive and makes storage or selling far less practical, but at least keeps the buzz going. And it seems strange to buy such moving works just to store them out of sight. What's everyone else do to support the habit? Are you flipping for something new on the wall every so often? Stockpiling in hopes for more walls at your next place? Loads of work, work and more work. Oh yeah, and scratchcards...  |
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Post by dungle on Apr 18, 2015 19:56:58 GMT
I now only buy originals.
Prints need to be exceptional to be bought.
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Post by alittle on Apr 18, 2015 20:04:08 GMT
I have a few criteria where I will still buy prints:
(1) If there no chance I will ever afford an original
(2) If the availability of original work is very sparse
(3) If it is heavily hand finished or hand painted
Even if it meets those critera, it has to be a traditional means of printing (i.e. screen printing, lithograph, etching). Other than that, I much prefer buying original works
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Post by jeezuzjonessnr on Apr 18, 2015 20:39:44 GMT
I started collecting in 2007 and all my collection I have bought at cost (one piece wasn't which my misses bought and broke my rule) using the principle if I missed something I just move onto the next release and check it out BUT it meant the ones i missed/liked add onto a list of must haves when i find cash in the future? (Which never eventuates  ) Although my attitude to this has changed recently due to my Taste is changing, into more abstract type works : parla,hidinks,kofie,Jon one,remi rough ,posiea and many more.. Would like little OG's maybe. Like most I had a clear out last year, had nick walkers, dolk etc.in tubes under the bed. Nice to get rid and start fresh. I moan and jest about the wife, but recently she is having a say on pieces, framing etc.. But we have just bought a new place and I am currently doing up the office/man cave so I have 3 walls for my self  |
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Post by supercockle on Apr 18, 2015 21:55:15 GMT
I started buying in 2008.
I bought a lot in a short space of time, on reflection, largely because I didn't take time to stand back and watch for a few a while before buying. I thought that everything was going to be the next Bansky.
This lasted for about 4-6 months and then I calmed down.
Most of the pieces I bought originally, I sold in the past year. The SPQR pieces I loved and they served my walls well but as with most things, tastes change. Many prints never made the wall and that's a shame.
I made some good buys, I made some bad but I really enjoyed it.
Like most, I try to focus on originals these days and have less pieces in the "collection".
I still love buying a new piece as much as I ever did.
One thing hasn't changed since the beginning and that's the fact that beer and art are a dangerous combination.
I still want to buy a lot more than my bank balance will allow.
My wife continues to support my addiction.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2015 22:05:14 GMT
My "collection" consists of mostly inexpensive prints; prints that will not break my bank. They're mostly Faireys... Not much meaning in them, mostly for aesthetic purposes. I definitely do not buy them as an investment. In fact, I have cut one of them into three pieces (Dali by David Flores). I also do not believe in spending much on framing... My abode houses some of my art (because no-one in his right mind would buy it) And the walls are pretty much covered from bottom to top. |
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Post by bejwee77 on Apr 18, 2015 22:14:12 GMT
All fine approaches, and bonus for jeezuzjonessnr and supercockle that the wife is on board or you have your own walls! I ended up with a few Roamcouch-es, Eelus-es, and an ADW due to the intersection in taste between the wife and I. Banksy, Otto Schade, and the less happily-themed pieces are reserved for the office and man cave. The upside is that after several months digging into the space, I've seen a great deal of the art and artists out there, so my wishlist (or already-own list) is getting firmer. Then it's just a matter of weighing new releases or stumbling across yet another under-appreciated artist. But I suspect it'll be a while before my tastes/walls are so strained that I won't splurge on prints, especially considering that OGs are harder to come by and many prints are affordable - even if they have to sit in the flat file for a bit. Either way, it's a good time on the downward spiral of addiction! |
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Post by curiousgeorge on Apr 19, 2015 0:58:30 GMT
Sneakers were just a gateway to Art for me..Now it's come full circle and I'm back to hoarding sneakers and vintage couture items.
First name terms at the local storage rental place. I'd laugh if it wasn't so pathetic
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Post by Aza on Apr 19, 2015 10:02:26 GMT
We all go through the stages I now only buy things I really love and feel I have overcome the initial got to collect them all obsession. It takes quite a few years to get over it though, started collecting in 2004. It is now far less expensive than it was, and I generally only buy 'cheap' pieces from newer artists. Although that's majnly because I can't afford it anymore  |
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Post by smokey834 on Apr 19, 2015 22:51:10 GMT
I was fortunate enough to get re-obsessed with art in the last couple of years. And since those years have involved going back to school full time & a young child means that the majority of pieces were purchased from thinning out years of record collecting. I made the decision a nice piece of art or three would better serve the walls than records. Only records now grace the walls of my office. Also less money meant(& still means) I must be very picky. I've picked up several prints that I love from the likes of Rene Gagnon, Mobstr, Chris Stain etc. but have also come across a couple of nice originals from Billy Mode, Federation of Ideas, & a commissioned painting on hold by Lala Abaddon. I love her woven pieces but, besides being out of my budget at the moment, her painted works were what really struck me as powerful & full of feeling. I've yet to sell anything as again I've only bought what I envision making the walls. The only piece I might sell is an original Anthony Ausgang bought a few years ago. Although not representative of his typical pyschedic style I still like it, but sadly the Mrs hates it so it's yet to find a home on the walls. Don't see any purchases happening until all framing is complete, although there's always those two or three prints(certain Dotmasters or Del Naja) or originals(My Dog Sighs) you're hoping to find for a steal. Otherwise I'll be saving for the oh so coveted Morons.
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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on Apr 19, 2015 23:19:55 GMT
I was fortunate enough to get re-obsessed with art in the last couple of years. And since those years have involved going back to school full time & a young child means that the majority of pieces were purchased from thinning out years of record collecting. I made the decision a nice piece of art or three would better serve the walls than records. Only records now grace the walls of my office. Also less money meant(& still means) I must be very picky. I've picked up several prints that I love from the likes of Rene Gagnon, Mobstr, Chris Stain etc. but have also come across a couple of nice originals from Billy Mode, Federation of Ideas, & a commissioned painting on hold by Lala Abaddon. I love her woven pieces but, besides being out of my budget at the moment, her painted works were what really struck me as powerful & full of feeling. I've yet to sell anything as again I've only bought what I envision making the walls. The only piece I might sell is an original Anthony Ausgang bought a few years ago. Although not representative of his typical pyschedic style I still like it, but sadly the Mrs hates it so it's yet to find a home on the walls. Don't see any purchases happening until all framing is complete, although there's always those two or three prints(certain Dotmasters or Del Naja) or originals(My Dog Sighs) you're hoping to find for a steal. Otherwise I'll be saving for the oh so coveted Morons. which Chris Stain? He's the reason I got into street art in the first place but I've never picked up any of his work |
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Post by smokey834 on Apr 20, 2015 0:03:15 GMT
He's out of NY, perhaps originally from Baltimore. Images are usually of inner city youth or the everyday working man, or common folk. Does some work w/ justseeds & collaborates a good bit with Billy Mode.He's also an art teacher I believe. His work certainly doesn't contain the wit & humor you normally see in street art, but I personally think he's one of the best stencil artists around & sadly under appreciated for the most part. Maybe it's the serious social themes & images I mentioned above, or the fact that he doesn't do a ton a prints. I only own one print but the detail is amazing. Really powerful piece inspired by I believe a political convention in Charlotte, which being 30 minutes away made it even more personal. If it's the same Chris Stain then so glad to hear others appreciate his work as well.
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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on Apr 20, 2015 1:44:10 GMT
He's out of NY, perhaps originally from Baltimore. Images are usually of inner city youth or the everyday working man, or common folk. Does some work w/ justseeds & collaborates a good bit with Billy Mode.He's also an art teacher I believe. His work certainly doesn't contain the wit & humor you normally see in street art, but I personally think he's one of the best stencil artists around & sadly under appreciated for the most part. Maybe it's the serious social themes & images I mentioned above, or the fact that he doesn't do a ton a prints. I only own one print but the detail is amazing. Really powerful piece inspired by I believe a political convention in Charlotte, which being 30 minutes away made it even more personal. If it's the same Chris Stain then so glad to hear others appreciate his work as well. oops sorry I meant which Chris Stain pieces do you own?... we're definitely talking about the same artist He used to paint a ton around here back in the early-mid 2000's, and was part of a couple of shows I helped organize. you're absolutely right- very powerful, politically charged work. anyone not familiar with him can check him out here www.chrisstain.com/ |
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Post by shoeless on Apr 20, 2015 3:20:37 GMT
I try to keep the vast majority of my collection framed (90%+), only storing works a few works that I actually intend to frame in the short-term (1 year) horizon. As my walls are full of art, and I'm not particularly keen on storing art, usually the decision to purchase a new work is accompanied by a review the current collection and making a decision to cull the herd. I find as time has gone on, I have ended up with less art, but the cost per piece is significantly higher as I try to focus more on purchasing original works rather than a slew of prints. As for funding the adventure, there was a time when flipping was quite profitable, but that ship has sailed for the most part. Just so much garbage coming out, and so many people looking to make a fast buck that there isn't much money to be made. New purchases are funded by my salary or the sale of existing pieces in my collection. This is about where Im at. I aim to have things on the wall as soon as possible. If it sits around for a couple months, Im more likely to pass it on. Over the years, my collection has been refined and I try to purchase pieces that compliment one another. Unfortunately, sometimes a quick decision has to be made to jump on something I want or be forced to regret and pay secondary prices later. When I chose to move those it is usually because I have been underwhelmed by the quality or realize I have too many similar pieces. Nothing wrong with having a portfolio full of great art though! Its the collectors curse to want everything. |
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Post by dot on Apr 20, 2015 9:17:14 GMT
i collect i used to collect a lot , went a bit nuts for a while. then i stopped now my view is og's if and when. still i'm lucky and unlucky , aren't oui all i love my art - it changed me and us - it's alive. my view of art is now more influenced by the artist themselves and who and what they are and the view they're trying to .. do. (just look at hense and ito - they are way way out there..) alas i see scams and my view changes again .. danger here be careful. stay cool , keep your head , and you'll be ok ... if you go nuts make sure you don't lose your loved ones en route |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 10:22:09 GMT
Must confess to being a collector and hoarder. Started out in the print market still buy the odd one if special but generally by originals to add to the collection.
Obviously have more art than walls but have a small room/office where I keep all that's not walled. Must confess as long as I buy a piece for the right reasons and pieces I love I really do not mind that they are not all on the walls. Also do not like too many pieces on the walls at anyone time but regularly do a small or a complete change around which is really interesting as it completely changes the rooms.
It's also interesting when you do that as pieces get placed because they fit etc rather than their status in your collection
Ha ha that's not saying it's the right way to do it though.....keep saying one of these days I will move some of it on.....the Mrs says I have to.....so we will see
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Post by dashboll on Apr 20, 2015 10:39:18 GMT
My problem is paying out for framing, I know it needs to be done but when you have to choose between a couple of frames or a new piece, I usually go for the second option so have a lot that's not on the wall (the one thing I promised I'd never do)
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Post by Blakeies on Apr 20, 2015 11:59:47 GMT
It's strange. I think I still have all the early pieces that I bought, and they are all framed and up on the wall. I live in a flat at the moment so I'm not spoilt when it comes to wall space. So I keep buying new bits and then I have nowhere to store them and if and when they get framed I wouldn't have any wall space to put them up. I've been selling off a lot of unframed pieces of late to free up some cash and some space. As soon as I move I will be spending again though, I will have all those extra walls to fill  ? |
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Post by sin on Apr 20, 2015 22:22:30 GMT
I seriously have a problem. I dont mean that as I joke, I literally know that there is something psychologically wrong with me.
At this point I have a big flat file that is overfull, prints flattening in my office, a closet, my dining room (which I converted into a gallery) and little corners around the house with stuff stuck in it.
i have cut down acquisitions but actually end up falling into pieces from time to time.
i have a "to be framed" group
i've only ever sold 2 pieces and believe at this point i need to sell more, bring in the cash, maybe pick up some OG's but might as well use it to fund the framing lest i get myself back into the same problem.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 23:17:44 GMT
Sin- If it is you from the *other* forum... Welcome! I have always enjoyed your comments... Love the upcoming commission you have of your daughter... Who can say that?
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Post by amboguy on Apr 21, 2015 8:15:47 GMT
I have a few criteria where I will still buy prints: (1) If there no chance I will ever afford an original (2) If the availability of original work is very sparse (3) If it is heavily hand finished or hand painted Even if it meets those critera, it has to be a traditional means of printing (i.e. screen printing, lithograph, etching). Other than that, I much prefer buying original works That's my exact criteria too! I'd love and original Bob Dylan but seeing as they go for about £200,000 I'll stick with his prints! |
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Post by notmattl on Apr 21, 2015 12:20:55 GMT
Reading these comments, I feel lucky that I didn't start by collecting urban art, but instead more established modern art.
I am a highly obsessive person when something sparks my interest. I am great at "man maths" ( if I walk 5 miles to work, twice a day, 220 days a year, and save on associated subway fees, I can easily afford to buy this thing !)...so affordable prints would have been my doom.
Fortunately I started with more established artists, where prints were less widely available, before ebay and forums, which meant sources were mostly local galleries, and at a time where I had less cash.
So from the late nineties to mid 2000s I could basically afford 1 print a year. Thank fuck for that....
Got a bit carried away when I discovered Urban art 6-7 years ago, but only for a few months. Probably have 10-15 prints I should not have bought that will stay in flat file, and that make good presents or giveaways.
Now I am basically down to buying 2-3 pieces a year, OG or small ed print if OG is unaffordable, and when nothing strikes my fancy I consider buying a print I should have bought a long time ago which now goes for crazy money
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) Although my attitude to this has changed recently due to my Taste is changing, into more abstract type works : parla,hidinks,kofie,Jon one,remi rough ,posiea and many more.. Would like little OG's maybe.
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