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Post by hubblebubble on May 8, 2015 23:42:34 GMT
While the other parties are scrabbling around trying to elect new leaders and rebranding themselves, the Tories will have no credible opposition and will sell off everything they can get their taxpayer-funded manicured hands on. All while slashing welfare and public services. What they do now, will have long-lasting effects. You can't take services away from communities without it influencing other things like healthcare and crime further down the line. Not to mention the long term consequences of piss-poor wages and out of control bills. Shhhhh Doctor the middle classes are tired of the protestations they don't want to hear this, until this effects them directly them, fuck everyone else, okay? Where are all the Tories celebrating??? be brave stand up and be counted... Or are you all actually self serving cowards? I'm here, for one. Not a coward. I don't go shouting about my political beliefs and, frankly, am over the election and getting on with my life. Some you win, some you lose. I've lived through Tory and Labour governments and I've always accepted the public's decision magnanimously and figured that things even out in the long run. That's democracy, I guess. If you like that kind of thing. Hugs HB |
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Post by Dr. Plip on May 8, 2015 23:45:23 GMT
The Murdoch-led smear campaign alone should have been enough to dissuade people from voting Conservative. Newspapers with long histories and proven track records of being the absolute shits of humanity, were telling people how to vote. Why on earth would people agree with rags that time and time again, have been shown to be corrupt, lying, scamming, sleazing, smearing, bribing, self-serving hate-pedlars?
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Post by IggyWiggy on May 8, 2015 23:47:41 GMT
While the other parties are scrabbling around trying to elect new leaders and rebranding themselves, the Tories will have no credible opposition and will sell off everything they can get their taxpayer-funded manicured hands on. All while slashing welfare and public services. What they do now, will have long-lasting effects. You can't take services away from communities without it influencing other things like healthcare and crime further down the line. Not to mention the long term consequences of piss-poor wages and out of control bills. What professor plip says, the channel tunnel is next. It makes a shit load, but some evil rich bastards are already cumming in their y-fronts (at ed gove's command) fucking not cunts |
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Post by hubblebubble on May 8, 2015 23:49:34 GMT
The Murdoch-led smear campaign alone should have been enough to dissuade people from voting Conservative. Newspapers with long histories and proven track records of being the absolute shits of humanity, were telling people how to vote. Why on earth would people agree with rags that time and time again, have been shown to be corrupt, lying, scamming, sleazing, smearing, bribing, self-serving hate-pedlars? Don't disagree Doc. But Murdoch backed Blair in previous elections. I'm assuming that was equally despicable in your eyes? |
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Post by hubblebubble on May 8, 2015 23:52:35 GMT
The Murdoch-led smear campaign alone should have been enough to dissuade people from voting Conservative. Newspapers with long histories and proven track records of being the absolute shits of humanity, were telling people how to vote. Why on earth would people agree with rags that time and time again, have been shown to be corrupt, lying, scamming, sleazing, smearing, bribing, self-serving hate-pedlars? Who the fuck is reading newspapers? They should all be taken out and machine gunned up against a wall, prob'ly or summink Now yer talking  |
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Post by Dr. Plip on May 8, 2015 23:55:47 GMT
The Murdoch-led smear campaign alone should have been enough to dissuade people from voting Conservative. Newspapers with long histories and proven track records of being the absolute shits of humanity, were telling people how to vote. Why on earth would people agree with rags that time and time again, have been shown to be corrupt, lying, scamming, sleazing, smearing, bribing, self-serving hate-pedlars? Don't disagree Doc. But Murdoch backed Blair in previous elections. I'm assuming that was equally despicable in your eyes? It's a sliding scale of despicable, but yes, it's on there. |
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Post by IggyWiggy on May 8, 2015 23:56:56 GMT
The Murdoch-led smear campaign alone should have been enough to dissuade people from voting Conservative. Newspapers with long histories and proven track records of being the absolute shits of humanity, were telling people how to vote. Why on earth would people agree with rags that time and time again, have been shown to be corrupt, lying, scamming, sleazing, smearing, bribing, self-serving hate-pedlars? Don't disagree Doc. But Murdoch backed Blair in previous elections. I'm assuming that was equally despicable in your eyes? Yeah. Illegal war? Murdoch owns sky, the times, largest itv share holder (at the time), evening standard owner (at the time), the sun, news of the world, the sun on Sunday. Anyone else want to carry on? Phone hacking? |
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Post by Dr. Plip on May 8, 2015 23:57:11 GMT
While the other parties are scrabbling around trying to elect new leaders and rebranding themselves, the Tories will have no credible opposition and will sell off everything they can get their taxpayer-funded manicured hands on. All while slashing welfare and public services. What they do now, will have long-lasting effects. You can't take services away from communities without it influencing other things like healthcare and crime further down the line. Not to mention the long term consequences of piss-poor wages and out of control bills. What professor plip says, the channel tunnel is next. It makes a shit load, but some evil rich bastards are already cumming in their y-fronts (at ed gove's command) fucking not cunts I'm glad this forum is American owned. I can't afford to start paying to post comments. |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 0:40:23 GMT
Shhhhh Doctor the middle classes are tired of the protestations they don't want to hear this, until this effects them directly them, fuck everyone else, okay? Where are all the Tories celebrating??? be brave stand up and be counted... Or are you all actually self serving cowards? I'm here, for one. Not a coward. I don't go shouting about my political beliefs and, frankly, am over the election and getting on with my life. Some you win, some you lose. I've lived through Tory and Labour governments and I've always accepted the public's decision magnanimously and figured that things even out in the long run. That's democracy, I guess. If you like that kind of thing. Hugs HB Interested to know your views on the poor And On the planned 12bn welfare cuts for a start |
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Post by hubblebubble on May 9, 2015 5:47:40 GMT
I'm here, for one. Not a coward. I don't go shouting about my political beliefs and, frankly, am over the election and getting on with my life. Some you win, some you lose. I've lived through Tory and Labour governments and I've always accepted the public's decision magnanimously and figured that things even out in the long run. That's democracy, I guess. If you like that kind of thing. Hugs HB Interested to know your views on the poor And On the planned 12bn welfare cuts for a start Like I say, I've already moved on. If I'd wanted to debate politics, I'd have joined a political forum. |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 5:52:21 GMT
I'm here, for one. Not a coward. I don't go shouting about my political beliefs and, frankly, am over the election and getting on with my life. Some you win, some you lose. I've lived through Tory and Labour governments and I've always accepted the public's decision magnanimously and figured that things even out in the long run. That's democracy, I guess. If you like that kind of thing. Hugs HB Interested to know your views on the poor And On the planned 12bn welfare cuts for a start A large % of the 12bn could prob be saved if they actually cracked on those who abuse the welfare system, unfortunately its likely the ones who really need the help will be the ones who loose out. Im not sure it makes much difference whose voted as the public figure, theyre just another puppet, just a public face scapegoat, the puppeteers keep out of view shielded by the yes men. |
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Post by cymruplan on May 9, 2015 6:43:15 GMT
There is a cross party supported bill that caps welfare spending so whilst Mirror readers can have a panic, any party would need to carefully watch spending and likely have to make cuts.
I'm more interested in how the Labour Party reform now. To my mind they lost this election 5 years ago when the utterly competent and decent David Milliband was stabbed in the back by his brother who then made the fatal mistake of putting Ed Balls on the front bench (although I suspect DM may have made the same mistake). Labour desperately need to get the next leadership decision right otherwise the Torys will be in for 10 years minimum with a slick handover to Boris in 5 years.
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Post by dirtburger on May 9, 2015 7:27:29 GMT
Agree cymru. I just hope that the best thing that comes out of this is that Labour regroup into a genuine alternative to the Tories after realising that being Tory-Lite gets them nowhere.
I dread the next five years; these will not be good times.
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Post by jeezuzjonessnr on May 9, 2015 7:30:05 GMT
Interested to know your views on the poor And On the planned 12bn welfare cuts for a start Like I say, I've already moved on. If I'd wanted to debate politics, I'd have joined a political forum. It's amazing when there's an election everyone becomes a politiician, same as when the World Cup is on everyone becomes a football pundit!! It doesnt matter who is in charge I think we (majority of western countries) are in for many years of debt, printing money, low interest rates, rich getting richer poorer getting poorer, austerity, jobs been lost as the west can't compete with Asian and Indian wages, immigration and welfare problems (people are getting obese and fucking lazy and are reliant on handouts).. The list is on going, it started in America, going through Europe even now reaching the 'lucky country' here in Australia. Best thing to do is sell your signed banksy and buy a camper van then drop out of society and the rat race, do some travelling then join a commune - no tv, Internet etc... become a carpenter (change your name to merlin) and grow your own (Amsterdam World Cup strength) weed and veggies and live on smoothies and have lots of sex with hot fit vegan chicks until you pop your clogs happy daze... |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 8:25:00 GMT
Oh the irony an urban art forum, that grew out a street art movement, that was originally based on dissent and questioning authority and people don't want to talk about politics
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Post by cymruplan on May 9, 2015 8:40:35 GMT
Oh the irony an urban art forum, that grew out a street art movement, that was originally based on dissent and questioning authority and people don't like politics I might have missed something but who said they don't like politics on here? |
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Post by mojo on May 9, 2015 9:46:27 GMT
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Post by jeezuzjonessnr on May 9, 2015 9:48:28 GMT
'The super rich and us'
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Post by eschiff on May 9, 2015 10:30:50 GMT
This was my first UK election I could vote in as I've been living as an immigrant here for 8 years before getting my citizenship last year (fuck you Farage). I found the election incredibly refreshing compared to the U.S. Elections I'm used to. Only 6-weeks of hype? Wonderful! It took me a bit to realise I wasn't voting for one of the party leaders but rather my local mp and once I realised that it made focussing on my local (Bethnal green and bow) issues much easier. Our constituency is a safe labour seat so it was hard not to spoil my vote voting for the Marijuana is Safer than Alcohol Party (amazingly, this is true!). As much as I disagree with Tory economic and social policy it's in stark contrast to an American conservative. At least here they believe in universal health care and education which is refreshing. It was a sad day in our household when the results came in. Financially it will probably benefit us over the next five years but the social impact overwhelms any small financial gains we may make. All I hope for is the EU grants some More autonomy to the UK and we avoid any possibility of leaving the union. I think that would be disastrous (he says while on the Eurostar to Paris! |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 11:17:24 GMT
Oh the irony an urban art forum, that grew out a street art movement, that was originally based on dissent and questioning authority and people don't like politics I might have missed something but who said they don't like politics on here? Deceit, manipulation, false promises, control, corruption, lies, greed, scaremongering....whats not to like! |
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Post by Dr. Plip on May 9, 2015 11:35:25 GMT
I might have missed something but who said they don't like politics on here? Deceit, manipulation, false promises, control, corruption, lies, greed, scaremongering....whats not to like! And that's just the art forums  |
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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on May 9, 2015 12:53:41 GMT
are there any true democracies left? Can't speak for the UK but the US is certainly not one - between the electoral college, lobbyists, and voter suppression |
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Post by Dr. Plip on May 9, 2015 13:00:22 GMT
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Post by sean on May 9, 2015 14:52:23 GMT
If they bring back foxhunting I will go fucking mental. You and me both mate, that and the Human Rights Act. |
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