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Post by sin on May 21, 2021 21:30:32 GMT
Update to the story.
Communicated with Doze via e-mail and IG. We have worked through it, and decided on a piece that he is currently working on to cover the purchase price. Being that I dont have it in hand yet, I'll stop short of celebrating.
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Post by sin on Mar 22, 2021 2:46:56 GMT
So, its been 6 years since this all started.
I put a sizable deposit down on a Doze Green commission.
I'm (still) a huge fan of Doze's work. I've been patient, he's had to relocate a few times, and I was cool being patient.
However, at this point Doze has produced tons of work, and just let my sizable deposit go without rectifying the matter.
There have been half hearted attempts that never came to an end. Promises make but not kept.
So, while I still appreciate the work, and Doze's contribution to the movement, I would suggest against doing commission work with him.
SIN
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Post by sin on Feb 4, 2021 5:54:04 GMT
Bezt - Agoraphobia 39"x39" 2013 Acrylic on Canvas Exhibited at Uncontainable Exhibition 2017 Buyer pays shipping $6000 USD Os Gemeos - Close Encounters*framed, will unframe and ship flat. Exhibited at Uncontainable Exhibition 2017 Buyer pays shipping $10,000 USD Peeta - Assist150 cm x 50cm 2010 Mixed Media on Canvas *Would unstreatch and roll Buyer pays shipping $9500 USD Adding some others over the next few days. Will upload pictures tomorrow. While offers are welcome, I don't need to sell, so I am not very flexible. Consideration would have more to do with how you handle your collection, we xhibited work we collected and would be inclined to give a break to someone who has a similar approach. Also, would give consideration for anyone based in Florida where we can deliver the work vs use shipping carrier. Thank you
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Post by sin on Jan 20, 2021 2:31:25 GMT
Well, the first time I had this problem, I did the logical thing.
I bought a bigger house of course... (lol)
When this problem came up again, I thought about doing that again, and thankfully woke up from my fantasy.
I store most of my pieces that are not hung in my house. Flat files as furniture, frames pieces stacked up orderly in an office. I have some overflow, that is in our storage unit, which is only acceptable because we have other stuff in it. I would never pay to have a storage unit just for the art, I think that would be clear evidence of a hording problem.
I would advise against lending out work en masse unless you are super comfortable with the idea and can not be attached to the work when its gone. We have loaned pieces to exhibits, even done our own exhibit and its a job in and of itself honestly.
Best of luck. One thing to consider (that just popped in my head) is to do some strategic trades. Let go of big pieces by artists you are comfortable letting go of, for smaller pieces by "bigger" artists you would like to add to the collection.
SIN
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Post by sin on Jul 23, 2017 16:44:30 GMT
You guys are all princes!
Thanks for the advice.
SIN
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Post by sin on Jul 15, 2017 19:46:01 GMT
Hi guys - Headed to Paris with the family in November. Have a solid group of tips so far but looking for as much as I can muster. Specifically
1. where to stay (likely doing airbnb) 2. where to stay away from (tourist traps, rougher parts of the city) 3. where to find street work 4. museum advice 5. gallery advice
Craig
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Post by sin on Jul 15, 2017 19:16:19 GMT
Welcome. Being banned is a badge of honor. My only hope is to run into Daniel some time during Basel and ban him in person.
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McGee
Jun 24, 2017 17:58:58 GMT
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Post by sin on Jun 24, 2017 17:58:58 GMT
I am looking for McGee work. Originals
Acquisition is for institution so can discuss cash, or provide proper paperwork for tax deduction if in the US for 501(c)3 donation (or a mix of both)
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Post by sin on Jun 20, 2017 14:53:56 GMT
the cost of production for giclee is really low. depending on piece, yield etc, somwhere around $4 - $20 ($4 for 8.5x11.00 type size $20 for something large) while a gallery can likely help with distribution, i think a well employed IG and FB strategy (with the right image of course) can easily push 100 pieces without much struggle. galleries are an important piece of the equation for a lot of things and particularly when trying to sell a higher price point item ($50+),
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Post by sin on Jun 19, 2017 1:12:13 GMT
No problem. I dont know why anyone would split with a gallery on a Giclee. You can effectively POD (print on demand) for that product. Unless someone has a really deep collector base / platform, you can functionally do this yourself. For screen, litho, etching, dye sublimation etc. You really need to have some cash in hand to handle production, as you cant really POD these items.
Craig
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Post by sin on Jun 18, 2017 18:09:12 GMT
The deal structure can vary based on the demand of the artist
However 50/50 after cost is as usual starting point.
Particularly if the gallery is not only the retailer but also covering production costs, which for things that can't print on demand, have to come out up front.
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Post by sin on Jun 17, 2017 23:58:05 GMT
Sarasota huh!?
I went to Riverview!
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Post by sin on Jun 17, 2017 15:31:53 GMT
Shots from the exhibit UNCONTAINABLE SPAINSH COURT by Craig ONeil, on Flickr Swoon - Mortimer & Jenkins & Michasel Reeder - The Observed Observer & Juan Travieso - Continuous-Time Markov by Craig ONeil, on Flickr Swampy & Bezt & Sainer & Logan Hicks by Craig ONeil, on Flickr Shepard Fairey - Vintage Collection by Craig ONeil, on Flickr Sainer - Final Frontier & Logan Hicks Bella Fortini by Craig ONeil, on Flickr Revok - Lynch Road & Logan Hicks - The Story of My Life by Craig ONeil, on Flickr Michael Reeder - The Observerd Observer by Craig ONeil, on Flickr Michael Reeder - The Observed Observer & Juan Traviseo - Continuous-Time Markov by Craig ONeil, on Flickr Mars 1 - Molecules & Bezt (Etam Cru) Agoriphobia by Craig ONeil, on Flickr Brian Adam Douglas - A Sort of Homecoming & Michasel Reeder - The Bold Maurader by Craig ONeil, on Flickr Axel Void - Homo Homini Lupus by Craig ONeil, on Flickr
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Post by sin on Jun 17, 2017 14:59:57 GMT
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Post by sin on Jun 6, 2017 16:43:09 GMT
Yeah, we jumped in with both feet, have done shows and mural projects in the pass, but exhibitions that are for the purpose of selling work just soured our hearts and mural projects (as anyone who has done one will attest) are a TON of work and logistics and management that arent paced well for my life. We still do mural stuff, but its single artist, and is residency type approach vs a mural festival.
As far as public exhibition like this
- securing work can be a challenge. we spent a year buying pieces and building relationships to help get the right pieces. - the stuff Thinkspace pulls off with institutions deserves a fucking medal. Working with museums usually requires not only getting the thumbs up from the curator but also the board and boards are usually older folks who generally push whats in their collections. he is either paying for space or doing world class diplomacy. in our case we found an opportunity with a munisipality which has institutional quality exhibition space and it was much easier to get done. - resources (PR, curators, staff, security, money, promotions, etc etc) we lucked out the city has been an awesome partner, they brought a lot to the table and it helped keep our costs focused on things like shipping, framing, etc.
I was joking about the UAA thing, but seriously, thanks for being here.
As far as politics, I love talking about it, but hate talking about it. Peoples feelings get hurt and I hate hurting peoples feelings. Im not much of a diplomat, but I really do respect people who have well researched information and passionate opinions.
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Post by sin on Jun 5, 2017 16:37:24 GMT
Hey guys - So, I've taken the plunge and started my own institution. It's in its early stages, but its all legal, and the 501c3 (non profit) paperwork is processing. Our first exhibition is being done in partnership with the City of Gainesville, Florida. (We open June 9th) We are setting up our offices now, and are working towards permanent exhibition space. Figured some of you guys have considered this route to house your collections, so I'm happy to share anything you might be curious about. P.S. You have me for the long haul, I am officially "persona non grata" at "the forum that should not be named" good luck! can you let us know some of the artists you'll be exhibiting? To save on typing, here is the show ad which will be in Hi-Fructose July edition V10_UNCONTAINABLE_ThomasCenterGalleries PRESS-page-001 by Craig ONeil, on Flickr
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Post by sin on Jun 5, 2017 16:32:13 GMT
Hey guys - So, I've taken the plunge and started my own institution. It's in its early stages, but its all legal, and the 501c3 (non profit) paperwork is processing. Our first exhibition is being done in partnership with the City of Gainesville, Florida. (We open June 9th) We are setting up our offices now, and are working towards permanent exhibition space. Figured some of you guys have considered this route to house your collections, so I'm happy to share anything you might be curious about. P.S. You have me for the long haul, I am officially "persona non grata" at "the forum that should not be named" Can't say I'm surprised after some of the self titled "unpopular opinions" that you posted. If you're banned for that then fair play Silky We all arent going to share political theology man. I'm a Libertarian. I live in the US and I believe people should own guns (if they want to). If we have to agree on politics, this is going to be a boring fucking world. You do you, I'll do me, and how about using PM and not shitting on a thread?
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Post by sin on Jun 5, 2017 15:54:29 GMT
I have long tried to put our collection on public view, like in a museum. So we loaned pieces out for a bit but that is nerve racking. So we set up our own institution (museum for lack of a better term) and have our first public exhibition of much of our collection coming up on the 9th of June. Since we dont have our own exhibition space yet, we are partnered with the City of Gainesville, using one of their gallery spaces. www.niuart.org is our website, and there is a link to the exhibition poster. I figured some collectors have considered this same path, and have learned a lot putting this together and would be happy to share that with others.
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Post by sin on Jun 5, 2017 14:11:44 GMT
Hey guys - So, I've taken the plunge and started my own institution. It's in its early stages, but its all legal, and the 501c3 (non profit) paperwork is processing. Our first exhibition is being done in partnership with the City of Gainesville, Florida. (We open June 9th) We are setting up our offices now, and are working towards permanent exhibition space. Figured some of you guys have considered this route to house your collections, so I'm happy to share anything you might be curious about. P.S. You have me for the long haul, I am officially "persona non grata" at "the forum that should not be named"
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Post by sin on Feb 4, 2016 18:07:31 GMT
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Post by sin on May 8, 2015 18:49:01 GMT
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Post by sin on May 5, 2015 16:44:55 GMT
Somewhere there is an empty bucket that correctly represents all the importance this shit art has.
For anyone with a long weekend, a bag of weed and photoshop (along with some youtube tutorials) it will be quick to see how little artistic talent this takes. On top of that the reuse of someone elses iconic image, and copyrighted photograph makes this a larger pile of shit.
As has been said on this topic before. Remove the stolen elements and what do you have? Shit photoshop work passed off as art. Can we please stop buying this shit so these people starve (galleries and artists included)
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Post by sin on Apr 28, 2015 22:49:24 GMT
For best results, listen to this while reading this thread.
We rushed in under a banner of revolution. An aggressive raw departure from the trained and traditional. Not unlike the waxing and waning of Outsider Art, we've found ourselves in the cooling that happens when what started as a rebellion becomes the status quo. You cant rage against a machine that you are seeking to use.
So the art became formulaic, the artists became rock stars. When they once wanted to hide behind monikers they now were seeking out PR agents. Rehashed, reimagined regurgitated with less and less substance and more and more style. It's a modern ill, that we find ourselves attracted to a flame only to smother it with our obsession.
Time to pull up stakes and seek out where rebellion found affordable rent, 'cause the "street" has become gentrified, the desolate warehouses with a dive bar, gave way to coffee shops, yoga studios, with parking meeter forests. The natural warmth of the flame gave way to the soul sucking hum of artificial light... casting artificial shadows... on a manufactured rebellion that is open every Saturday from noon to 11pm
.... needless to say I'm a bid disillusioned with the state of "this thing we share" and am making an effort to explore something else. feel free to critique my thoughts.
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Post by sin on Apr 21, 2015 14:18:37 GMT
Sin- If it is you from the *other* forum... Welcome! I have always enjoyed your comments... Love the upcoming commission you have of your daughter... Who can say that? A Indeed, the same sin from the "forum that must not be named" I suppose if I wanted to be funny I should have gone with notsin as my forum handle
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Post by sin on Apr 20, 2015 22:22:30 GMT
I seriously have a problem. I dont mean that as I joke, I literally know that there is something psychologically wrong with me. At this point I have a big flat file that is overfull, prints flattening in my office, a closet, my dining room (which I converted into a gallery) and little corners around the house with stuff stuck in it.
i have cut down acquisitions but actually end up falling into pieces from time to time. i have a "to be framed" group i've only ever sold 2 pieces and believe at this point i need to sell more, bring in the cash, maybe pick up some OG's but might as well use it to fund the framing lest i get myself back into the same problem.
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