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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2015 1:47:41 GMT
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Post by blackappleart on Jun 19, 2015 1:58:01 GMT
The actual existence or number of these "special" pieces really is of no significance to the overall market in regard to supply as they are insignificant quantities to have an affect on demand. Very cloudy as what to expect as far as "official" releases from here on out if any but what we can count on is more elaborate, thought provoking and attention grabbing spectacles as he continues to step up what he is best at, street work. IMO his outside works are by far the most meaningful, entertaining and bring the most excitement for me. I think that the very best work he does everyone gets for free ( aside from this "forgive us" piece that has just surfaced...I really want that fucker) You're quite right BA no relevance to the bubble discussion just clearing up bs that gets spread regularly As for that forgive us piece isn't that from a group show some 3/4 years back and was used in the marketing of exit ? I despise it because of what it was used for. This piece is a much smaller version of the MOCA piece done here in LA. Was there for that show and it was a monster.  |
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Post by poledance on Jun 19, 2015 2:11:52 GMT
You're right this is the one from the hmv shop front, Oxford street London
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2015 3:37:52 GMT
Strikes me that he is one of if not the most un manipulated artists in the market. It appears his main function and always has been his street work. He does not do the free wall paint here please thing.
He barely releases anything. There is very little hype about him. Sure he does create as sell stuff etc but nothing like he could do if he wanted a load of cash.
BOTI was massive and as commented on and we saw a massive jump in the price of Banksy's but he did not release anything off the back of it or do a show of say 15/20 originals think what they would have went for in. Major setting in NYk.
I doubt anyone actually knows how much or what he produces. Eg exclusive lists, but are there more exclusive lists than the so called exclusive list etc in these contexts it's made out to be something but I reckon all artists, galleries have mates, friends, regular customers etc etc that they do stuff for or tip off when new pieces are available because it's easy convenient and good for business so would don't he is any different.
I just have a feeling he works to his own agenda etc and zi doubt anyone knows it or allots details as I would doubt he wants anyone to know all the details.
So when people say fact ......concerning Banksy I would at best say they know that bit.........possibly but do they know that it is the total or the only one's etc.......I think that's not possible unless they are the man himself.
Because I would guess if he wanted everyone to know everything he produced either he,PC or POW would release a list and update it.
They don't so I guess he likes it that way........So my guess is that the only Fact is no one really knows
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2015 6:06:13 GMT
Not confusion on my part, you stated fact which obviously wasnt...i like directness and honesty, not keen on arrogance, theres always someone smarter/faster/stronger...thats just how it comes across... Wow you're really moving this debate forward with your massive insight Apologies poldark, had a few bevs and reading it back i came across a bit arrogant myself |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2015 6:18:31 GMT
Strikes me that he is one of if not the most un manipulated artists in the market. It appears his main function and always has been his street work. He does not do the free wall paint here please thing. He barely releases anything. There is very little hype about him. Sure he does create as sell stuff etc but nothing like he could do if he wanted a load of cash. BOTI was massive and as commented on and we saw a massive jump in the price of Banksy's but he did not release anything off the back of it or do a show of say 15/20 originals think what they would have went for in. Major setting in NYk. I doubt anyone actually knows how much or what he produces. Eg exclusive lists, but are there more exclusive lists than the so called exclusive list etc in these contexts it's made out to be something but I reckon all artists, galleries have mates, friends, regular customers etc etc that they do stuff for or tip off when new pieces are available because it's easy convenient and good for business so would don't he is any different. I just have a feeling he works to his own agenda etc and zi doubt anyone knows it or allots details as I would doubt he wants anyone to know all the details. So when people say fact ......concerning Banksy I would at best say they know that bit.........possibly but do they know that it is the total or the only one's etc.......I think that's not possible unless they are the man himself. Because I would guess if he wanted everyone to know everything he produced either he,PC or POW would release a list and update it. They don't so I guess he likes it that way........So my guess is that the only Fact is no one really knows All good points J, the main point being hes the captain of his own ship, not being directed like many artists are, an artist with no restraints following his own path, whats instore for him in the future, who knows, thats the intrigue and mystery that keeps us all interested |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2015 6:55:07 GMT
blackappleart yep the MOCAshow was amazing as was that piece. Was really chugged to see the show with so many on the roster was such a great chance for me being so far away from it all really excellent @castlegalleryni think your spot on Andy in that he is his own boss etc which I think is cool etc although sometimes wish he followed the normal pattern as there would've a lot more avail at cheaper prices etc. He def has his own way and good luck to him as it's rare these days that someone can just completely tread their own path in an industry that has its rules to follow. Paths and processes etc
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